bonecollector777

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Quick? You have 4 months until your hunt. Get up there and scout and find a buck. That's your best bet. Because anyone that knows the strip well most likely isn't gonna wanna tell you where to find their deer.

Just had a friend send a pic of a transaction from azgfd. Either 13A or 3C

No no. . it's they're. So you both got it wrong.

The only good part about not having your card hit is I don't have to lose my mind like everyone else waiting! Although I'm still excited to see what friends and family members got. Gotta be today or people might start rioting haha

OK beardown we will call it even. You think I'm wrong and I think you're wrong. And the world keeps spinning. AND he still doesn't get his money or another tag

I never said anything to disrespect the man or his service. I simply don't think he should get that same tag when he gets home and shouldn't get his money back. Is there such a problem with that? You telling me my opinion is wrong is like me telling you that you're opinion that steak tastes good is wrong. You need to rephrase your sentence to "since you're opinion isn't the same as mine I'm gonna cry about it and tell you that your opinion is wrong." That would describe what's going on perfectly. Not sure how you took what I said and twisted it into what you just said but not sure where you're going with it. According to your way of thinking the military members should get their own rules and benefits of the draw because they help the nation and community. If they do then let's let the cops and fireman have the same benefits. They help out the community as well. But let's not forget about the paramedics and nurses and doctors who work hard to help the community and nation as well. We better make special rules for them too. Get my point? Who is to decide where the line is drawn if the military helps the nation be more safe and free than the cop. Or if the fireman makes the nation more safe than the paramedic and then who gets to decide which one of all of them gets the special privileges in the draw?

Sold

Bought new for $105 and have never used it on a hunt. Was used on one backpacking trip for a couple days but is basically brand new. I'm a little too big for the pack and I just got a new badlands pack for my birthday so don't need this one. Looking to get $80 for it. I'm back and forth between Heber and Mesa so I'd prefer to meet face to face but will ship as long as you cover shipping. For those of you that aren't familiar with the pack it can either be used as a 1500 C.I. day pack or the additional bag can be strapped on to give you over 3000 C.I. for a longer trip. It has a meat shelf as shown in the pics and is very comfortable. Any questions just ask.

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Haha I've never been one to keep my mouth shut chompy. . Why would I start now? Because you said so? What I love about this site is we all have different opinions and we all discuss things and see things differently. I don't expect you to cater to my opinion as I don't cater to yours. But by far my favorite part about this site are the tough guys

How old is the swaro?

Thanks flatlander. . I'm definitely not trying to take anything away the OP and am thankful for what he is doing. Just don't think he should get a tag back. Intherut Thanks for bringing something into the post that had absolutely nothing to do with anything and didn't happen anything like that

If the rule is he can return his tag for points then that's great. But I agree with the no refund policy. He signed up for it and wasn't forced into the military. It sucks I agree but the biggest thing I'm disagreeing with what he said is he should get that tag when he gets back. I have friends that are in the military that I have personally talked to about putting in and a lot of them decide to go the bonus point only route because of this problem the OP is facing right now. They tell me I would but I may be deployed any day so it would suck to get drawn and have to turn my tag back in. If he gets his points back then that's great. He could also donate the tag to different organizations like other people I know have done when unforseen circumstances arise. The example I gave about work taking me out of state was just a generalization because I know of a lot of people it has happened to. Usually they know it's a possibility and decide on just a bonus point that year and that's that. If he were to get a refund and a tag when he returned I think that would open up a lot of problems with people that had to eat their tag for other reasons. They would feel they deserve a tag when they got back and it would just be a mess. Once again people may think I'm being harsh when he is already in a tough situation but I feel this way about everyone that this might happen to no matter their profession or duty. Myself included.

I don't wanna sound like the bad guy and I thank you for your service but as the rules are written I don't think anyone should get their points or money back. Now before everyone attacks me and says what a horrible person I am for not thinking a military member should get the refund and points back I also don't think anyone else in the world should get either back. When we put in we have unforseen circumstances that could come up. That's the chance we take and as a military member you have agreed and promised to fulfill those duties so although it sucks you don't get your money or a tag when you get back I think it's fair for everyone as a whole. If I fall and break my arm the day before the hunt do I get my tag back the next year since I can't use it? If there are other health problems or deaths in the family or other work related issues that take me away from getting to go on my hunt do I get my tag back the next year? The answer is no. Everyone can go ahead and attack me now but that's just how I feel about the subject as a whole. Not just this instance. They can't make special exceptions for special circumstances. It's no different than if my job called me across the U.S the day before the hunt. It's my job and the military is your job.

Sorry forgot to update. They have been sold

I just purchased a 2001 Toyota Tacoma that had some of these tires and wheels on it. I felt they were way too big for a smaller truck like that so I switched them with some new ones. Previous owner said he had them for about 6 months used only on the highway. Discount tire said they have 70-75% of their tread left. One tire has some chips in some of the tread where it rubbed on the bumper of the truck when turning. These tires brand new go for $235 a piece from discount. The rims are Mickey Thompson classic lock 6 lugs that are in great shape. They have a fake bead lock ring around them that the original owner painted over with green paint. The bead lock rings have some scratches and dings but can always be replaced if wanted. The rims brand new are around $165 a piece. Looking to sell as a package right now and do not want to trade. Everything together cost around $1600 new so I'm gonna start at $1200 due to the wear and tear on them. Message me here or give me a call or text at 928-240-3567

Don't think it's happening today . . The tell tell signs of them uploading the results hasn't showed up. Hoping by tomorrow!

Poor guy FINALLY drew with 9 points. . Haha I bet it was rough waiting that long! congrats to him and hope he gets a good one!

Nice! Bet he smelled good carrying back to the truck. Still looks a little ripe

We gonna get a score on him?

330-335"

I don't have hounds but have many friends that do. First off I don't think they think it's acceptable. They love their dogs just as much as anyone else and with some dogs being worth thousands of dollars I doubt any of them would just accept the fact their dog was gone and not try their hardest to find it. People lose their dogs out of their backyards during the middle of the day so why do you find it so strange a dog might go missing while they run for miles through the forest in who knows what direction. They could break off from the pack and go chase an elk or deer, they could get hurt, they could lose their collar, their collar battery could die or the collar could malfunction. Losing a dog doesn't happen often but I promise every time I have been with friends when they lost a dog they spend hours looking for them into the night and next days and they nearly always find them. If they don't find them ssomeone else will and will call them. Just curious where you saw or got it from that made you think they just accept losing their dogs like it's nothing? If you saw it on this site they are most likely telling people to help out and look so I would take that as them doing everything they can to find the dog.

So I have a situation where I have two guys from cali wanting some help with their archery elk hunts. They aren't gonna make it out here to scout at all before the hunt so I offered to put out some cams and salt to find them a good bull and help them when their hunt starts. I am not a licensed guide, do not claim to be and do not expect compensation in any form and will not accept compensation of any form. My question is if I'm paying for salt, cams, batteries, buck jam, fuel etc. To scout and look for a bull am I allowed to have them help pay for some of those expenses? The law states this: a guide is one who Accepts compensation in any form commensurate with the market value in this state for guiding services in exchange for aiding, assisting, directing, leading or instructing a person in the field to locate and take wildlife. The way I see it I am not aiding, assisting, directing, leading or instructing anyone IN THE FIELD to locate or take wildlife. Technically putting out cams to take pictures of elk doesn't really have anything to do with azgfd laws because I'm not hunting or helping someone hunt. I am not doing any of this to make a profit but simply to help cover costs of the items listed above. Once they are out here I will be paid nothing and won't receive any compensation. Do you think azgfd would have anything to use against me for taking any money to simply cover material expenses right now?

Problem with that is you would also need insurance and permits from forest service to be paid. Way too many rules regarding it because all the agencies want a piece of the pie if you're making some money. Thanks for all the feedback guys. I personally don't see I'm doing anything wrong but I'm gonna call them up and see what they say.