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Naw we broke up

For those of you that updated cards it sounds like the update card link wasn't working for some people even before the deadline. So be checking your phones for the call.

I used desert schools and haven't seen anything yet. Then again the hunts I put in for are terrible odds.

On another sour subject the credit card update link is still on the draw page. Don't think it's gonna happen tomorrow.

Happy to help. . This things going to 100+ pages now.

Take it however you would like. I love the attitude of if you ever screw up and do something stupid you're ruined for life. I have nothing to prove to you and simply came on here to tell the story of what happened. And every word I wrote is exactly what happened. Believe it if you'd like or not. Doesn't really bother me. It's in the past but the more time that passes it seems people like yourselves and SOME not all of A3's group are still very upset about it. But I can't help that.Do you understand why they don't believe it Blake. I went back and reread your post. So you just woke up that day and said oh I think I'm gonna steal a trail cam today. BS. Then you hung your self by telling everyone that "had you not got caught you would have probably still done it again" Come on man your smarter than that. That doesn't speak very well to your character. We all know this wasn't your first time and won't be your last. Like I said I applaud you for actually coming forward. Because that was part of the agreement when you got caught. But your story has so many holes.And your forgot to add you cut the dang thing off with a sawzall Dude have you lost your mind? I didn't even have a Sawzall with me. If I did I would have gotten the box off the tree without crushing it as well. Next, who says I decided when I woke up I went out on a mission to steal cameras? I was out checking my cameras and checked that place out and due to the amount of traffic hitting that water I made the bad decision to take it. Do I need a reason approved by you as to why it crossed my mind to take a camera?I'm also confused how saying if I hadn't been caught I may do it again is bad? Like a lot of bad things people have done they may not stop doing it until they get caught. Had I taken the camera and not been caught and punished don't you think it would have made it easier to do again the next time? But since I was caught and never want to deal with something like this again it helped me realize what a stupid thing I did and to never do it again. I'm not sure if your half-hearted apologies and all that are real but doesn't seem to be. If you still think badly about me go for it. I can't change that. I put everything out on the table and have nothing to lose and don't really care if I have your approval. You're obviously friends with some A3 guys and they can say what they want about it but what I wrote today 100% honest to God truth. I would have no reason to come out and admit what I did and then lie. I stole a camera, I got caught, I apologized multiple times and tried to make it right, they didn't accept the apology or reimbursment and that's the bottom line. I don't get why you have such a problem with me as I didn't do anything to you but don't bring this BS acting like you are happy I came out and admitted it and good job blah blah then 30 minutes go bipolar and totally change you're attitude. Get past it or don't I can't help you with that. As for me I feel completely comfortable with how I tried to take care of my mistake. I did everything in my power to make it right besides pay them thousands of dollars and there is nothing I can do besides that. Noone made me post this due to an agreement. You seemed more than happy to spread it around with bits and pieces and I felt I had a right to explain what really happened and clear things up. If you can't take that as an apology and see that I learned from what I did I don't know what to tell you. So continue on with your life and I hope you can get past little things like this. Don't let your A3 buddies decide how you should act.

Take it however you would like. I love the attitude of if you ever screw up and do something stupid you're ruined for life. I have nothing to prove to you and simply came on here to tell the story of what happened. And every word I wrote is exactly what happened. Believe it if you'd like or not. Doesn't really bother me. It's in the past but the more time that passes it seems people like yourselves and SOME not all of A3's group are still very upset about it. But I can't help that.

Alrighty for everyone curious as to what happened I'm not afraid to talk about it and get it out there. Shedhunter seems very concerned about it so I'll tell you exactly what happened and how everything has played out. I'll first start off with no I do not have an established guiding business and no during the time this all went down did I have my guides license. I obtained my guides license a month after the incident. At the end of July I went out to check some new country with my nephew in unit 23 because my dad had the Archery tag. We had checked our cameras and I decided to check a new spot way off the beaten path. I had studied the area in Google maps and was excited to check out a water hole I saw there. We got there and checked the pond and found a lot of good sign of elk and coues deer and felt it was a promising place to put a camera. As I walked around the pond I noticed a camera on the back side on some salt. I looked it over and made the mistake of deciding to take it. Was it a good decision? Absolutely not. Was it a good example to my nephew absolutely not. Had I not been caught with it could I have continued to see the need to take other cameras? Probably. In the end as I got the camera and made my way to the truck I noticed a utv headed down the road towards us a long ways off. Startled I jumped in my truck and drove down the road and hid my truck behind a tree and they soon came flying by and didn't see me. As they tore around through the woods in their razr looking for me I hid there silently and they buzzed around off road for about 2 minutes until they gave up and left. Still not knowing it was their camera I sat and waited about an hour and decided to make my way back down the road which was the only way out. I removed my license plate as I drove back but still had my front license plate on. I figured it was their camera due to them pursuing me and I also figured they would be waiting for me down the road somewhere but knew there was nothing I could do other than face them. As we drove down the road they were there across the road waiting. I pulled up and rolled my windows down while they recorded me. I knew one of the guys from previous hunting trips and knew the other guy slightly just from knowing he was a guide. We talked about it civilly and they asked if I took the camera and I said yes. They then asked me to follow them down to a ranch house where they had a law enforcement officer waiting. While I didn't have to comply with their demands of following them I knew I was in trouble and decided to make it easy on everyone and do it. We pulled into the ranch and got out and talked about it and talked about hunting and BS'd for a while and was told it wasn't their decision to do something but the outfitter they worked for was deciding if he wanted to do anything to me. After an hour wait the first service officer showed up. They talked to him alone, I talked to him alone told them what happened, gave him the camera and from the officers own mouth he said he didn't know what they could even do to me other than a possible minor theft charge but I needed to call the outfitter and work it out with them. I agreed and was told I could leave. As soon as I got service I called the outfitter right away and told him what had happened and how he wanted to proceed. He said he needed to talk to his partners and figure out what would be best and for me to think about what I would do to make it right. I agreed to think about it and waited for his call back. A week later he called me and asked what I'd do to make it right. I offered to give him three new cameras with lock boxes ( a value of around $400-$500.) He seemed upset that I would offer such a small amount and said he wanted more. So I then told him I would buy 5 cameras with boxes. He still said he wanted more because other cameras in the area had been taken and he assumed it was me and my friend who had the 23 tag a year prior. I told him I had never taken another camera and that he shouldn't accuse my friend of stealing cameras without proof. ( the main reason he was accusing my friend was the year before my friend went in and chased the same 400 inch bull his guide who caught me was chasing. My friend stuck the bull three times and his guide refused to back off and let my friend do continue to find the animal and kill it. In the end the bull was pushed out and never found.) So they weren't happy with him for chasing "their bull". Anyway back to the original story. After offering the five cameras and not accepting it he said he wanted more and also wanted me to write a letter of apology to them and make it something that could be posted publicly to discourage others from doing what I did. I agreed to write a letter which I did that night apologizing and admitting I screwed up and the consequences of what happened. I emailed the outfitter the letter and still have a copy if anyone would like to see it or want a copy of it. Another week passed and I got a voice-mail from him saying he liked the letter but that they would accept nothing less than $1000 or they would press charges and that I better not mess with them because many of their clients were big time rich attorneys and if I tried to fight it I was guaranteed to lose so I better just pay. As I thought about it I thought you know if I can pay $1000 and post this letter online and face a little criticism from the hunting world it would be worth it to get it over with. The next day I called him back and said I got his message and agreed to do it. I was then told his partners had talked about it and they decided $1000 wasn't enough and they wanted $1500 and the letter posted. I told them I would talk to my brother who was an attorney and let them know. After to talking to my brother he suggested to offer $1000 and the letter and no more and if they kept wanting more and more money that was extortion. So that's what I did and they did not accept it. At that point I'd had enough of their extortion and told them you know what I messed up and I'm trying to make it right and you guys are going overboard. I'll take my chances in court. He followed up with i hope you're ready to be ruined and just wait to see how much we get you for and how much money you're gonna pay among other threats of how powerful they were and I messed with the wrong people. Before I hung up I told them look I was willing to work with you and get this over with and you're taking it too far. I told them as soon as they pressed charges for the theft of a $120 camera I would be turning them in for destroying live trees by lag bolting cameras into them. ( I found at least 10 I know are theirs) and also turning them in for tearing up the forest driving off road like maniacs looking for me while I was parked literally next to the road behind a tree. That was the end of the communication between us and to this day I have heard nothing else from them or law enforcement. This post by shedhunter who had nothing to do with it was the first I've heard of it again since August. After everything happened it helped me see that I really did a stupid thing and I honestly tried to make it right. But there is a limit to how much I'm gonna put up with from these guys even if I did take their camera. I was willing to pay $1000 and publicly post about what happened but that was not good enough for them. Take it as you want and think of me what you will but I can only do so much to fix an mistake like I made. I decided to let the law run its course and whatever come of it come of it but I was not gonna deal with their threats of power and richness scaring me. I'm sure you have all figured out the outfitter is A3 and I have no hard feelings against them or the guides that caught me. Matter of fact I've ran into one of the guides and we talked like everything was normal and have communicated through Facebook and Instagram occasionally. Soon after it all happened I looked up certain mistakes the guides that caught me had made in the past and there are some things on their record regarding game violations and one of them serving jail time for a hit and run. Do I think they are bad people for what they did? No I don't. It's in the past and that's that. We all make mistakes and was more than willing to do what I thought was right to get it over with and in the past. As of today March 31st I have yet to see any charges pressed against me and don't know of any court case I'm in like shedhunter claims. If you don't believe me go look under my court records. Last thing I was charged with was lighting an illegal firework on fourth of July. I don't have a prior record of anything besides a few speeding tickets. If you would like to check my name is Blake Owens birthday 07/13/1990. You'll see there is no lawsuit or charges pressed against me as of this time. If there is in the future I'll face them and whatever the outcome is ill deal with it. It's in my past and have moved on. Apparently shedhunter and A3 still have it out for me but there's nothing I can do to change that. Once again I made my mistake and have learned from it but I'll only take so much before I give up on making it right out of court and take my chances in court. Any questions send me a PM and we can talk about it. Blake

I don't know why they take so long and it drives me crazy BUT I do know there is a law they can't make interest off the money we submit other than the app fees. Plus with hardly anyone putting in with checks and money order there is not a whole lot of money in the bank. Once they charge for tags they will have tens of millions but at that point it's their money and they can do with it as they please. They are just incompetent with the draw and can't fix their errors worth crap.

I love all these game and fish brown nosers. Just because they put a deadline for end of April doesn't make it ok for them to take that long. We've said it before that other states can get their draw done close to a month after app deadline. Az takes at least 2 month if not 2 and a half. If they said the deadline was end of June for results should we just sit back and deal with it and wait and say they are on schedule? It's 2016 people. Technology has advanced more than ever and azgfd is only going backwards. If it truly took 2 and a half months to get the draw done without problems then that's fine. But when they are taking that long because they are incompetent and have been screwing up the draw for years that's not ok. They make tens of millions of dollars off these draws. If a private company had as many incompetent idiots working for them and wasting money like azgfd they would have went bankrupt long ago and a better company would have moved it. Unfortunately were stuck with this department and have to deal with it but it's still not ok.

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Douche

And you wasted precious time writing out that stupid post. You're spending too much time on here. Find something productive to do.

3 people?! That is insane. They are looking to make a couple million off the draw and all they can afford is three people to run it? The mismanagement of funds and resources is mind blowing. Hire some Asian that can make a computer program function correctly and pay him big bucks and get this thing running smoothly.

Don, I'm just not quite understanding how the Boquillas deal will change the draw. If no deal is favorable, will the number of tags in that unit be reduced? I know they cannot change the applications to show different hunt choices this late in the ball game and the regs did warn everyone about this.I think the problem is they planned on a certain number of animals to be taken out of unit ten when they made the tag numbers. From what I understand a lot of the animals are on the ranch. If they give everyone tags and they can't hunt the ranch they are gonna wipe everything out elsewhere in unit 10 thus causing problems in the future. If they don't come to an agreement I'd assume they will drop tag numbers and to be fair they are gonna have to call every one that put in for it and ask if they want to stay in for that choice or change it. I'd be pissed if I expected 100 tags and then there ends up being 50 when they draw. But if they end up doing that I'd imagine that's gonna take many many days. Think we're still in for a long wait.

Haha I'm not sure if you really believe that but can you even begin to imagine how long that would take? 100,000+ apps manually?

Gonna be a lonely thread if you're hoping to see any info about cards being hit anytime soon.

By the sounds of it all the problems are with apps. Once they figure that out and do the draw then the credit card problems start. Then problems uploading results into the system. Then we all lose our minds.

I'm hoping they can at least get it done this week. After that were gonna have to go occupy their building Malheur wildlife refuge style. .

Were ya planning a trip into the checkerboard zone? yes lolI'll fire up my bird. .

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No you can't. The rule actually says you can't fly 48 hours before any big game season. So by law once Archery deer gets going you're not supposed to fly til end of December or January in some units.