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    Help with AZ Coues hunt.

    Really, every deer I have ever harvested with a bow I called a number and told a gal what unit the deer was harversted in, how many points it had, how many days hunted ,type of bow,ect. so I'm pretty sure there was no guess work at all there so it seems to me that data they get from all the mandatory archery report isn't guessing it is right from the hunter who harvested, I have also filled out a great deal of survey cards from the GF and have always filled them out honestly, pretty sure the survey cards ask unit harvested, weapon type spike, buck or doe and if any deer couldn't be recovered ect. It seems to me that data also isn't guess work. I would love to see mandatory harvesting, I have filled out alot of those surveys on line it is fast and simple. !!!!Again I will state... The department does not use the information from the manditory reporting of archers to get there numbers as to how many animals were harvested!!!!!!!! and keep in mind only 20%of the survey cards sent to hunters get returned... IT IS A GUESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! its all crap data this is another good point, if and only if all hunters report their hunt outcome canthey have accurate numbers to base the hunts and permit numbers by. HARD NUMBER ARE HARD TO DISPUTE! I'm curiuos I don't hunt any other states except Az. so is Az. the only wildlife agency that doesn't require mandatory harvest reporting and if there are other states that don't require it do they just GUESS and use crap data. I don't agree with every decsion the AZGFD makes but when it comes to managing the states wildlife I trust them more to manage our wildlife than say the USFS, USFWS, BLM, CATTLEMANS ASSOCIATION, AZ. CRITTER GROUPS, THE CBS, PETA, SIEARRA CLUB, DEFENDERS OF WILDLIFE, SFW, ANY OUTFITTING BUSINESS, ECT.
  2. 654321

    Help with AZ Coues hunt.

    Really, every deer I have ever harvested with a bow I called a number and told a gal what unit the deer was harversted in, how many points it had, how many days hunted ,type of bow,ect. so I'm pretty sure there was no guess work at all there so it seems to me that data they get from all the mandatory archery report isn't guessing it is right from the hunter who harvested, I have also filled out a great deal of survey cards from the GF and have always filled them out honestly, pretty sure the survey cards ask unit harvested, weapon type spike, buck or doe and if any deer couldn't be recovered ect. It seems to me that data also isn't guess work. I would love to see mandatory harvesting, I have filled out alot of those surveys on line it is fast and simple.
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    Help with AZ Coues hunt.

    that's the same song and dance to give about 34A's December Archery hunt. At the same time they added 25 mule deer tags for rifle. I must have read the regs wrong because to me it looks like 34A has 25 tags for mule deer which is the same as last year it does look like they lowered the any antlered muzzy hunt by 50 tags though yes, last year is the time I'm referring to when the changes were made for 34A. I posted about it last year. I still don't see where they added 25 mule deer tags for 34A. I looked back in the regs all the way back to 2008 and there has always been 25 rifle mule deer tags, that's the same song and dance to give about 34A's December Archery hunt. At the same time they added 25 mule deer tags for rifle. I must have read the regs wrong because to me it looks like 34A has 25 tags for mule deer which is the same as last year it does look like they lowered the any antlered muzzy hunt by 50 tags though yes, last year is the time I'm referring to when the changes were made for 34A. I posted about it last year. I still don't see where they added 25 mule deer tags for 34A. I looked back in the regs all the way back to 2008 and there has always been 25 rifle mule deer tags,if I remember it was muzzleloader tags, I will have to check when I get my laptop back in a couple of days. There's a pretty cool book the GF puts out every year on their web page, if you look at it it goes from 2006 to 2010, I believe in 2006 there were 75 rifle MD tags and every year after there has been 25 tags. 2006 thru 2011 there were 100 muzzy tag then 2012 there were 75 and now 2013 25. Whats really interesting is the harvest data. Take a look at the archery harvest compared to the rifle harvest. The percent is higher for rifle but the number of MD killed with a bow really surprised me. Look at the muzzy harvest, that hunt is ant antlered but look at which species is being harvested. Pretty interesting stuff.
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    Any striper reports

    Az record is 29lbs. and 13.76oz. 07/13/2010 out of Lake Pleasant.
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    Help with AZ Coues hunt.

    that's the same song and dance to give about 34A's December Archery hunt. At the same time they added 25 mule deer tags for rifle. I must have read the regs wrong because to me it looks like 34A has 25 tags for mule deer which is the same as last year it does look like they lowered the any antlered muzzy hunt by 50 tags though yes, last year is the time I'm referring to when the changes were made for 34A. I posted about it last year. I still don't see where they added 25 mule deer tags for 34A. I looked back in the regs all the way back to 2008 and there has always been 25 rifle mule deer tags,
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    Help with AZ Coues hunt.

    that's the same song and dance to give about 34A's December Archery hunt. At the same time they added 25 mule deer tags for rifle. I must have read the regs wrong because to me it looks like 34A has 25 tags for mule deer which is the same as last year it does look like they lowered the any antlered muzzy hunt by 50 tags though
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    Wow 2013

    The cats will finish in last place and probably won't even make the college world series but ASU will not win the national championship and at the end of the season U of A will have bragging rights over ASU thats going to sting.
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    Anyone doing the over the counter archery turkey

    That's good news about the tag, I didn't think about the tag just saying see hunt regulations. In the spring it's bearded only and fall it's any turkey. Thanks all
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    Wow 2013

    they will finish in last place no doubt but that one win against ASU might be the reason ASU doesn't win the conference. Uof A men will not repeat as national champs thats a fact but ASU won't be the national champ thats a fact. ASU women our good but not good enough so when all is said and done neither school will bring home a championship in football, baseball or softball.
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    Anyone doing the over the counter archery turkey

    I wish the turkey tag was like the deer and you could use it in the spring and fall
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    big lake 2013

    they stock fingerlings in the spring and subs in the fall
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    WATCH YOUR STEP!!!

    I could be wrong but I think salt intended for the livestock industry will still be legal
  13. I must have read the wrong article because the one above doesn't say there is nothing to worry about. It does say there have been no positve tests yet and I believe they hope that trend continues.
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    End Bonus Points!!

    people must have a short memory, it wasn't that long ago Az. didn't have a bonus pt. system and guess what people complained then, a bonus pt. system was started and guess what some still complaining. IMO Az. has the best of both basically we have a preference pt. with the 20% pass and then the bonus pt. system with the other 80% of tags. I know its heartbreaking to see people talk about their 4th tag in a row and you haven't had a tag ever but that is just the way it is sometimes. If you want to hunt elk bad enough learn the system and go.
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    Found your spot!!

    stands like that are probably the reason FS has the rules they do about tree stand removal
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    Am I missing something???

    If you apply using paper and get rejected you lose bonus point and loyalty point too
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    Wow 2013

    looks like U of A baseball 0-6 in conf. ASU 2-4 in conf.
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    MURDER right across the street

    collared dove season year round, no limit hawk will be ok
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    36A

    I'm curious does anybody know how that works, does having minerl rights give a person the legal right to kick you off the land or is it like a cattle lease. Just think about it probably somebody has the mineral rights to most of the land in Az.
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    goulds turkeys

    After the fall draw 15 pts was the max, 12 residents and 2 non-res. I would bet after the spring draw the max for turkey is now 16 pts.
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    goulds turkeys

    It takes max to draw in the bonus pass after that its just the luck of the draw. I knew someone that drew with 4 pts.
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    Wow 2013

    ASU beats Colorado in OT!!!
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    Wow 2013

    Colorado spanks Wildcats 71-58!!!
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    draw odds question

    If you have 3pts going into draw you will get 4 random numbers and your lowest number will be the one used in the draw.
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    Arizona Game and Fish officer under investigation

    Shedhunteraz, Bash for false information? I dont think the AZ DPS would start a criminal investigation due to false or nonExistent information. Our DPS are hard working folks and deserve a little more respect. Let see what this criminal investigation unturns... Did i misread the article or did it state that AZGFD officials initiated the investigation because they felt there might be reason for concern. IMO DPS was brought in as an outisde agency to do the investigation so there would be no internal bias, DPS will either find something wrong or they wont
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