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If i was a betting man I would bet that the G&F is working on their Notice of Final Rulemaking

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its not against the law yet

i also heard shot from the road during Oct. hunt but heard it was 36B

that won't even be legal here do to the baiting ban and would that possibly be considered a leg hold trap

yes if a non-resident puts in with a resident the resident will be limited to the 10% cap unless the non-resident used to be a resident and bought a lifetime lic. before moving, if thats the case then you can put in with a non-resident and the application will be treated as a resident app.

I'm curiuos as to what everyones opinion is to why is road hunting illegal?

in the past shotguns weren't a legal method of take, however you can now use a shotgun shooting shot or slugs to legally harvest mountain lions

i knew as soon as i posted i should have clarified, its real simple 2 pig bag limit as long as pigs are not from same hunt #.

shanachie, no those are 2 different hunts so you can harvest a pig during the archery season in 37 and then a pig during the general hunt in 37, you cant harvest 2 pigs during the archery season or vice versa you can't harvest 2 pigs during the general hunt. hope that makes sense

a little pricey but son loves his rem 870 youth express

bonecollecter777, im curious to know how the topic between you and the supervisor came about, do you know Bob Burkly personally or did you just run into a GF officer and start up the topic and he spilled his guts how one of his employees arrowed a huge bull 2 weeks after helicopter surveys. As for ethics there like butholes everyone has one as for if its leagal or not im afraid so, if the officer flew surveys the day of the hunt and then went hunting the same day its legal, highly unlikely but legal. The coment about taxpayers paying for the fuel I hope you weren't refering to az taxpayers.

your hunt starts 4-26-13 and you can hunt thru 5-02-13, then the second hunt starts and those hunters get 7 days to hunt then starting 05-10-13 you can hunt again and so can the guys that had the 2nd hunt, what it amounts to is there used to just be 1 hunt and then the GF stratified the hunts so that each group gets 7 days to hunt and then both hunts can hunt to the end, hopefully that makes sense and answers your question

my guess is if the parent, gaurdian, mentor or whoever the adult was present would have called the G&F and self-reported the nearest WM would have responded and they would have gotten all the details in the incident. most likely they would have done everything possible to salvage the meat from the spike. if the WM truly believed it was an accident they probably would have written up a written warning to the shooter and may have let the jr. keep the cow since they did have a tag for that animal.

from the stats printed in the 2012 hunt az book looks to me hunt success for rifle has remained pretty consistent from 2007 to 2011, bottom line

the only thing that matters is the final score and that sure was a pretty GREEN A

the biologists are the WM's and they are not biased to hunting

I don't agree with every decision the AZGFD makes but to say they are highly biased against hunting is just ridiculious, if they don't sell hunting and fishing license they don't exist. For those of you that think they get az tax money think again, they don't get a dime from the tax payers of az. why do you think they push recruitment and retention so hard

its quite possible I'm wrong here but i think the only counties where it is illegal to feed wildlife excluding birds is pima and maricopa and if you look at that law it says if you are legally hunting then feeding wildlife is allowed. I think the law was passed to reduce animal conflicts in the urban areas within those counties.

IMO the only option you have is gather the best data you can gather and put it in a well organized letter and send it to the department. Utah allows baiting has anyone tried to gather any data on how fast CWD is spreading there, Colorado doesnt allow baiting how fast is it spreading there. I don't think the argument that baiting is a good way for retention or recruitment of hunters is going to get you to far, from what I've heard here about baiting is it is lots of work and long walks to bait sites, I think if you can hike 2 miles to a bait site you're not to old or handicapped to hunt without bait. If you think its going to be a huge economic impact then provide the data. show how much money the mom and pop stores are making off seeling bait ect. bottom line is if you havent sent an e-mail or letter to the department it will sure make it easy for the G&F to make their decision.

yes, a jr. hunting license is good for any hunts he puts in for. you could put him in for a general elk or jr. elk on same app, you just have to pay the higher price if you do paper app and if you apply online you will be charged whichever one he draws

he can get a youth combo for $26.50

if he has a hunting lic. he could always say he was rabbit hunting, wouldnt buy a lion tag and tell a G&F officer he was hunting lion with a 22 pistol pretty sure 22 isnt legal method of take for a lion

G&F doesn't have anything to do with how the USFS chooses to manage the forest land

glad to hear hunter reunited with bull but what a waist of meat, just my opinion but sure seems people more worried about antler recovery than meat recovery