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Prices had to go up sooner than later there hasn't been a price increase in how long? I personally don't like the premium crap however I don't mind cow tags being a little cheaper than bull. Combo hunting lic. is a good deal 3 dollars more and I get urban plus 2 pole stamp. $5 for combo youth paid 20 a piece this last time. Don't like the proposed app fee almost doubling they need to take that down to say $10.
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Go to the AZGFD web page and where it says search type in 2012 special big game license-tag awards
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I agree with the mandatory harvest report, all though on this site all I ever see when a new rule is implemented is how stupid that is and we don't need more rules so how does the AZGFD go about forcing people to report. I looked and it appears NMGFD rule is you don't report by a certain time you aren't elgible for the next draw. It must work to a point but they don't have bonus points. Can you imagine the uproar if someone lost their loyal point because they didn't report. Oregon has had mandatory reporting for years but no enforcing of it, they were only getting a 42% compliance so this year they will charge an extra $25 if you hadn't reported again I believe that would cause a huge uproar here. Now there is the question of are they doing that bad of job, it seems to me that if the majority of people weren't happy with the AZGFD they would be getting so much negative feed back that they would have to change something. Lets say they cut tags back no doubt lost revenue so what now, they raise fees they have to, and lets don't kid ourselves the passage of this new bill the department will be changing the fee structure. I honestly don't mind some fee increases lets be honest the cost of doing business is true for the AZGFD too. I guess for me it just doesn't seem like its that bad. NOT THAT BAD? When does it get "that bad, when the deer population is so low you see 20 hunters for every deer, or is it when you get real excited to see one deer all day? I have seen the Mule Deer population diminish significantly over the last 20 years. I used to hunt them in areas that now have hardly any Mulies and what you do see aren't the size they were years earlier. I for one would like to get something changed BEFORE we get to crisis levels....JMTSW The only deer population that is that low is the desert mule deer and if you take a look at any state that has mule deer you will see that AZ. mule deer aren't the only mule deer down on numbers. Also take a look at where mule deer numbers were high 20 years ago you know what I see I'll tell you a heck of alot of those pretty adobe houses that all look the same. You know what else I see in traditional mule deer habitat? Whitetail deer and there numbers seem to be doing just fine. IMO
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I agree with the mandatory harvest report, all though on this site all I ever see when a new rule is implemented is how stupid that is and we don't need more rules so how does the AZGFD go about forcing people to report. I looked and it appears NMGFD rule is you don't report by a certain time you aren't elgible for the next draw. It must work to a point but they don't have bonus points. Can you imagine the uproar if someone lost their loyal point because they didn't report. Oregon has had mandatory reporting for years but no enforcing of it, they were only getting a 42% compliance so this year they will charge an extra $25 if you hadn't reported again I believe that would cause a huge uproar here. Now there is the question of are they doing that bad of job, it seems to me that if the majority of people weren't happy with the AZGFD they would be getting so much negative feed back that they would have to change something. Lets say they cut tags back no doubt lost revenue so what now, they raise fees they have to, and lets don't kid ourselves the passage of this new bill the department will be changing the fee structure. I honestly don't mind some fee increases lets be honest the cost of doing business is true for the AZGFD too. I guess for me it just doesn't seem like its that bad.
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If you don't mind me asking who is mounting your antelope. It looks awsome.
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Really, every deer I have ever harvested with a bow I called a number and told a gal what unit the deer was harversted in, how many points it had, how many days hunted ,type of bow,ect. so I'm pretty sure there was no guess work at all there so it seems to me that data they get from all the mandatory archery report isn't guessing it is right from the hunter who harvested, I have also filled out a great deal of survey cards from the GF and have always filled them out honestly, pretty sure the survey cards ask unit harvested, weapon type spike, buck or doe and if any deer couldn't be recovered ect. It seems to me that data also isn't guess work. I would love to see mandatory harvesting, I have filled out alot of those surveys on line it is fast and simple. !!!!Again I will state... The department does not use the information from the manditory reporting of archers to get there numbers as to how many animals were harvested!!!!!!!! and keep in mind only 20%of the survey cards sent to hunters get returned... IT IS A GUESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! its all crap data this is another good point, if and only if all hunters report their hunt outcome canthey have accurate numbers to base the hunts and permit numbers by. HARD NUMBER ARE HARD TO DISPUTE! I'm curiuos I don't hunt any other states except Az. so is Az. the only wildlife agency that doesn't require mandatory harvest reporting and if there are other states that don't require it do they just GUESS and use crap data. I don't agree with every decsion the AZGFD makes but when it comes to managing the states wildlife I trust them more to manage our wildlife than say the USFS, USFWS, BLM, CATTLEMANS ASSOCIATION, AZ. CRITTER GROUPS, THE CBS, PETA, SIEARRA CLUB, DEFENDERS OF WILDLIFE, SFW, ANY OUTFITTING BUSINESS, ECT.
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Really, every deer I have ever harvested with a bow I called a number and told a gal what unit the deer was harversted in, how many points it had, how many days hunted ,type of bow,ect. so I'm pretty sure there was no guess work at all there so it seems to me that data they get from all the mandatory archery report isn't guessing it is right from the hunter who harvested, I have also filled out a great deal of survey cards from the GF and have always filled them out honestly, pretty sure the survey cards ask unit harvested, weapon type spike, buck or doe and if any deer couldn't be recovered ect. It seems to me that data also isn't guess work. I would love to see mandatory harvesting, I have filled out alot of those surveys on line it is fast and simple.
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that's the same song and dance to give about 34A's December Archery hunt. At the same time they added 25 mule deer tags for rifle. I must have read the regs wrong because to me it looks like 34A has 25 tags for mule deer which is the same as last year it does look like they lowered the any antlered muzzy hunt by 50 tags though yes, last year is the time I'm referring to when the changes were made for 34A. I posted about it last year. I still don't see where they added 25 mule deer tags for 34A. I looked back in the regs all the way back to 2008 and there has always been 25 rifle mule deer tags, that's the same song and dance to give about 34A's December Archery hunt. At the same time they added 25 mule deer tags for rifle. I must have read the regs wrong because to me it looks like 34A has 25 tags for mule deer which is the same as last year it does look like they lowered the any antlered muzzy hunt by 50 tags though yes, last year is the time I'm referring to when the changes were made for 34A. I posted about it last year. I still don't see where they added 25 mule deer tags for 34A. I looked back in the regs all the way back to 2008 and there has always been 25 rifle mule deer tags,if I remember it was muzzleloader tags, I will have to check when I get my laptop back in a couple of days. There's a pretty cool book the GF puts out every year on their web page, if you look at it it goes from 2006 to 2010, I believe in 2006 there were 75 rifle MD tags and every year after there has been 25 tags. 2006 thru 2011 there were 100 muzzy tag then 2012 there were 75 and now 2013 25. Whats really interesting is the harvest data. Take a look at the archery harvest compared to the rifle harvest. The percent is higher for rifle but the number of MD killed with a bow really surprised me. Look at the muzzy harvest, that hunt is ant antlered but look at which species is being harvested. Pretty interesting stuff.
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Az record is 29lbs. and 13.76oz. 07/13/2010 out of Lake Pleasant.
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that's the same song and dance to give about 34A's December Archery hunt. At the same time they added 25 mule deer tags for rifle. I must have read the regs wrong because to me it looks like 34A has 25 tags for mule deer which is the same as last year it does look like they lowered the any antlered muzzy hunt by 50 tags though yes, last year is the time I'm referring to when the changes were made for 34A. I posted about it last year. I still don't see where they added 25 mule deer tags for 34A. I looked back in the regs all the way back to 2008 and there has always been 25 rifle mule deer tags,
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that's the same song and dance to give about 34A's December Archery hunt. At the same time they added 25 mule deer tags for rifle. I must have read the regs wrong because to me it looks like 34A has 25 tags for mule deer which is the same as last year it does look like they lowered the any antlered muzzy hunt by 50 tags though
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The cats will finish in last place and probably won't even make the college world series but ASU will not win the national championship and at the end of the season U of A will have bragging rights over ASU thats going to sting.
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Anyone doing the over the counter archery turkey
654321 replied to couesdeerhntr's topic in Turkeys!
That's good news about the tag, I didn't think about the tag just saying see hunt regulations. In the spring it's bearded only and fall it's any turkey. Thanks all -
they will finish in last place no doubt but that one win against ASU might be the reason ASU doesn't win the conference. Uof A men will not repeat as national champs thats a fact but ASU won't be the national champ thats a fact. ASU women our good but not good enough so when all is said and done neither school will bring home a championship in football, baseball or softball.
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Anyone doing the over the counter archery turkey
654321 replied to couesdeerhntr's topic in Turkeys!
I wish the turkey tag was like the deer and you could use it in the spring and fall -
they stock fingerlings in the spring and subs in the fall
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I could be wrong but I think salt intended for the livestock industry will still be legal
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AGFD news Chronic Wasting Disease not found in Arizona deer and elk
654321 replied to AGFD News's topic in News from Arizona Game and Fish Dept.
I must have read the wrong article because the one above doesn't say there is nothing to worry about. It does say there have been no positve tests yet and I believe they hope that trend continues. -
people must have a short memory, it wasn't that long ago Az. didn't have a bonus pt. system and guess what people complained then, a bonus pt. system was started and guess what some still complaining. IMO Az. has the best of both basically we have a preference pt. with the 20% pass and then the bonus pt. system with the other 80% of tags. I know its heartbreaking to see people talk about their 4th tag in a row and you haven't had a tag ever but that is just the way it is sometimes. If you want to hunt elk bad enough learn the system and go.
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stands like that are probably the reason FS has the rules they do about tree stand removal
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If you apply using paper and get rejected you lose bonus point and loyalty point too
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looks like U of A baseball 0-6 in conf. ASU 2-4 in conf.
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collared dove season year round, no limit hawk will be ok
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I'm curious does anybody know how that works, does having minerl rights give a person the legal right to kick you off the land or is it like a cattle lease. Just think about it probably somebody has the mineral rights to most of the land in Az.
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After the fall draw 15 pts was the max, 12 residents and 2 non-res. I would bet after the spring draw the max for turkey is now 16 pts.