Sneaker

Considering last year the same group guided the raffle tag holder to a 430" bull, I think they took the picture and only posted this one for a reason, a good side profile would tell alot. Probably indicative of it being a tough year out there, but I hope not.

Too bad you can never hang and hunt this again after this year, but at least you know it is a high traffic water!

Who is on a computer and can go through the different card hit threads and count how many people had the $2100 card hit? It seems like there’s more people that say they got that charge than members that get a sheep tag in one year on the forum, there’s only like 120 tags for the whole state right?

Just throwing this out there, I would gladdly pay $2,100 for a sheep tag, charge me, charge me... 😁

Come on sheep! My last hope. Very weird about the odd dollar charges... every year it is something with their processor...

I’m ready, 8:02

So true. Honestly, does anyone think there really will be zero cams in 9 or on the strip helping hunters? I think alot of relatives/friends of hardcore hunters will suddenly start taking up some serious "birding/nature watching", and, according to the commission, that is their right!

Say I don't have a tag in unit X this year, but I will have a tag in that unit in a year or two or three, can I run cameras in the name of "nature observation" for the years before I get a tag? Then pull them and be fine, but have the intel from previous years of nature watching that may or may not inform my hunting actions?

I get alot of the arguments on both sides, but I never understood how they can argue that the existance and checking of cameras has a negative impact on behavior and habitat, but then at the same time say ANYONE is allowed to continue to use cameras EXCEPT hunters. It makes enforcement impossible and so easy for bad players to cheat and continue to do it. The next time I see a "nature observer's" trail camera on a beloved water tank out here in the desert, I'm going to have to really take a couple deep breathes.

Yeah cities and states are subject to public records laws. Here is Arizona's request site: https://www.azag.gov/media/public-records-request I would be curious to know what exactly was going on since they didn't even give any legitimate excuses.

Maybe this means we down here in Arizona have been scoring them wrong this whole time? 😜

Wow I didn’t know this, that’s a huge penalty for swinging for the fences for a non-resident kid. If any of their choices are non-youth, then even if they draw a youth tag they charge full price. Ouch. Makes some sense I guess though.

Wife is a proud owner of an early rifle bull unit 10 tag!

Plus who would be a plaintiff, just someone who didn’t draw, whose card WAS still active at the deadline and the damages would be that they should have been next in line to be awarded a tag IF the department hadn’t called people directly whose cards were rejected? hahaha

What makes you think today? Just curious, haven’t heard anything that would point to that. I hope your right for all our sakes.

The betting money has to be tomorrow right?!?!?

Mine still says pending

We’ve waited this long, they might as well wait until Friday to keep with Friday charge trend.

Navajo National off the charts the last 30 days, everywhere else is meh compared to normal.

Yeah, but you can decide ahead of time if you are going to hunt 4 miles in or if you better stick to the roaded areas. Units vary widely in how many roads there are and how far you can get away from them.

Boning out is the only way to go. Terrain and weather make a big difference on how difficult it will be and what your body, and the meat, can take. If you aren’t in great shape and it’s warm I would want to stay within 1/2 mile for sure. Usually takes 4 trips for a single guy if you are carrying a lot and the head out. 3 if you are total beast mode and doing over 100lb per.

Yeah very interested to find out when they will start charging cards now, thinking Sat morning or Monday morning?

I can't believe they refuse to say that something went wrong. To blame the extra long dealy on marginally different applicants is a cop out. Are they writing everyones application down on a piece of paper and then reentering them in a spreadsheet or what the heck is going on down there, they are already electronic and in the system haha. They really need to get a better systems admin down there.

I would be very shocked if they run cards at this point without giving a day or two for people to update them again first. There has to be dozens of people by now that have had fraud forced card shut downs in the last week, and therefore the department would never hear the end of it, and maybe if some of those dozens has enough money, litigation. Speaking from experience, you don't have to be right, or close to right, to have a lawsuit that isn't flatly thrown out. In this case for instance, they could just use the last X number of draws as the state establishing precident to at least really make the department have to spend time fighting it. I'm frankly surprised nobody has got on here saying theiy need to update their card because of xyz but are not able to.

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