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Hello the List: Robert here, signing on to the CouesWhitetail Forum. I grew up in Wyoming and except for when I was in the Marine Corps spent nearly thirty years there. I moved to Kansas in the mid 90's because I couldn't take the weather/winters anymore. Been hunting these Kansas whitetails and been doing pretty good. I've taken nine over 150", several well over 160". I'm getting interested in Coues because it looks like I'm going to make a 'career' out of big whitetails. (I took a 340"+ 7x7 bull when I lived there, but I can't draw the best Wyo. elk units (Unit 7/20) for elk and don't have points in Arizona, and can't afford the various Governors permits, much less the San Carlos, so a big elk collection is out. I've killed six big (79"-83"+) Wyoming pronghorns, but the drought has really hit them hard and I can't draw Arizona and can't afford New Mexico landowner permits, so a pronghorn collection, for now, seems out. Mule deer? What a joke. Sheep? I've taken a Wyoming bighorn and a 165" Dall, but can't afford the Stone, much less a Desert. I've taken a 370"+ caribou and want some more, but it's really hit and miss...) So it looks like I should expand and specialize on the various whitetails, Mexican, Canadian, Coues etc. So here I am, a rank beginner on what I am told is THE most difficult deer. I have a very close frend who has been to Arizona twice for Coues. (He's one of, if not the best, taxidermists in Wyoming) Be merciful. I've been through the archives and back messages... Might I ask some questions? Robert

Hey All: I'm trying to get myself calibrated as to size with these Coues deer. In the 'big' whitetail world, a deer starts to get interesting at about 140" B&C gross. (And for millions upon millions of guys from Pennsylvania, New York, Michigan etc., and the whole of the southeast, a 140" deer is a deer of a lifetime.) I'm told by serious guys, who go on guided hunts to Texas, Canada, and Mexico that you had better not be passing a 140" deer anywhere, anytime. I guess this is true. Gordon Whittington is a friend of mine and he spent nine (9) straight years in Canada on really expensive, high intensity hunts. In those nine (9) straight years, he killed one deer that just made 130". A 150" gross kinda deer is very impressive on the hoof and most guys 'lose it' at about this mark. (In country terms, a 150" kinda deer is a "12 pointer, for sure.") A 160" kind of deer looks huge on the hoof and anything above 160" simply looks GIANT. ("He was a 14 pointer, and could have been a 16 pointer!!") So what about Coues deer. At what size do they start to get interesting? At what size do they start looking big, really big, huge and giant? What is the 'equivalent' in Coues terms to a 140", 150", 160"+ whitetail? Robert

Hey! What is the Boone and Crockett boundary for Coues deer? All of Arizona, all of New Mexico? (Can't be.. West of the Rio Grande?) Northern Mexico, but I see that Baja has Coues all the way down. What's the deal with the Carmen Mountain Whitetail? Is it a Coues? Robert

I graduated from high school up in Gillette...(when I lived there it was a cow town, now it's an oil boom town), also lived in Cody and Laramie and both of these towns have gotten real trendy... R