muledeerarea33?

I think I might like your vinyl sticker but I'm too ignorant to understand it? Muslim horders, is what I'm reading? Please tell me what it means.

Yeah, the river is off limits but there's alot of area north and east of it that's fair game

Hahaha, I told myself if I draw a tag this year I have an excuse to drop some pounds. This hunt may be my excuse after all! I know what you mean by tough, the three places I've seen them have been in deep nasty canyons in three completely different places in the area. I guess I was just hopin someone saw them on some good easy flat ground lol. I'll have some help close by if I need it. For a fat guy I've hiked some nasty areas, it's just Alittle harder to do :-)

I've heard success stories from verde valley and the Winslow area but want to stay with the 28 hunt, the Winslow or verde valley hunt hunt would be a back up but it alot farther from home and I've never really been in that area before

Where are you located?

I love seeing sheep being transplanted to good habitat that can support them. As a kid I remember in unit 27 the sheep heard getting built up, now there are so many sheep up there that they get killed on the highway more often than they do by hunters, wonder why more tags aren't offered?

I said "some" 5.56 cartridges will stick. My mini 14 will stick every 5.56 I have but .223 is fine. None of my ar's have Had any issues but some could, depending on the chamber. There isn't much if any difference between 5.56 and .223 (except pressure) when you think about differences in machining

If he doesn't I will. Pm sent

The chamber is what determines your caliber, a tight .223 chamber will stick some 5.56 cartridges, some won't. It all depends on what chambering you have in your barrel. The ar-15 platform will shoot several calibers, the markings on the lower don't mean much, as long as a round will fit the mag well and your chambered for that particular round, you can shoot it. There is no law, that I know of that will prevent a caliber change. If you have a lower marked SBR (short barreled rifle) and have the tax stamp for it, then there's stipulations on what parts your allowed to have in your home. But bottom line is, if it'll fit the mag well and your chambered for it, you can shoot it.

Yep, unit 1 starts just above the meadows a bit. If you pm me ill tell ya where I saw a 7x8 in December.

Applied every year since 1998, no elk tags or antelope. My wife has had 2 cow tags in 4 years. Depends on the hunts you want

Alright now gentlemen, I enjoy reading outdoor writers knowledge and also enjoy the "make ya think" aspect that BC777 brings to the table. This post started out about bonus points, although I love sittin back and watching a good battle of wits, lack there of, I remember when I was 22 and can't imagine where I'll be when I'm in my 90's (hahaha sorry outdoor writer) point is, different generations can't be arguing, the common ground is far from common.

I've never saved copies of my applications, 3b has never been my first choice always 2nd or 3rd.

I believe 2012 it was my 2nd choice, I think I did 27, 3b cause unit 1 wasn't open, I may be mistaken though.

And after my "once in a lifetime" bull, I won't be so picky, any late cow or bull tag will be fine by me.

I'm tryin to hold out for unit 1 early. 27 early rifle had been my first choice but it wasn't offered this year. 3b 1 and 27 are the only elk units that I know, 27 and 1 I know well. I do 3b because I want to beat my dads 400+" 7x7 from the mid 90's hahaha!!! I'm not sure if that quality of bull is still there, other than on private lands or in neighborhoods.

I'm up to 16 now, unit 1 early rifle bull has been my first choice the past few years or, 27 early rifle too (no early hunts this year for rifle) and 3B muzzle loader 2nd or third choice. I'm gettin close to those tags, I hope?

As I type I have 2 kittens crawling and scratching all over me, (I think the grey one is in love with me?) haha. Maybe it's just my area but I have no problem with kitties. Like I said earlier, they are used as tools, for mice, bugs, etc. but in the end they are pets. We've lost alot of cats the past 5 years and our life goes on. I would never recommend killing the in a manner that isn't humane. If you live in a high stray cat area (which I don't) then be a man, a real hunter, and slit throats, break necks, step on them. Unless your just an insane heartless person, I promise you'll think about it. If you use your own hands to kill an animal. Not antifreeze, not a bullet, not a hook. Kill it bare handed ant it may change you mind on hunting and life in general. I've had to kill many animals in my young life and it hurts every time I do it.

You can cut wood for camp use I believe, lol I have 16 points now and didn't draw that hunt. Good luck, it should be a good hunt.

I own 8 acres in mescal az. I live on 4 and have 4 extra. Power, phone, and shared well water to the lot line. Nothing is on this property, minutes from good muley and coues country! 30 min from Tucson, 10-15 min from benson. Quiet property, mostly flat, lots of mesquite for bbqing, not in flood plain. Looking for property preferably in eager/springerville, show low (cause I know that area) or somewhere new like Williams, Herber, strawberry, payson, etc. anywhere with elk and pines. Not necessarily looking for 4 acre equal swap but maybe a lot or smaller average lot of equal value.

If you catch em I'll take them, I don't have 40 acres (only 8) we use cats as tools where I'm at, no stray cat issues cause the wild life takes care of them. I've lost around 10 good barn cats in 5 years. The wife just picked up 2 new kittens. I guess we'll try again with these two. Good for the bug and mice population.

Lions are killed to protect other species. Lions are predators, they kill prey, usually that prey is the animals most of us hunt or a ranchers live stock, which is their livelihood. Yes they are killed for sport, happen of circumstance, fun, and for money (sale of the pelt) but I promise you, the numbers of lion population is not greatly affected by hunters. It is a good thing to kill lions in my opinion, I've eaten several, they don't go to waste.

That sounds very powerful, I hope it does some good

I use an old iron vice, 100 pounds or more, elk leather on the jaws. It's worked well for me, my dad, and my late grandpa.

Lion is a sweet white meat, I've cooked it "eastern style" a hot wok and sauce on it, like super lean pork. It's tasty!