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Great time had by all! Many thanks to Allen Taylor and Steve Clark, I upgraded to my lifetime membership! Here are a few photos of tonight's festivities!

X2! Hope it was a good one!

Looking forward to a great time. I am very impressed with the Arizona Elk Society and will be upgrading my membership to "lifetime" soon because of their proactive stance on AZSFW. Everyone knows that they put on a phenomenal banquet and a great show!

You can edit your topic title to "SOLD" if you like.

Thank You for responding Bill, and for allowing us to use your words.

Allen, great idea! Right now, more than ever, we need HELP in getting the word out to the general public. Please consider this time in collecting some favors, connecting with contacts, anything that can make this happen! This is a ticking time bomb and action is urgently needed. If you both have any ideas we would love to hear them!

You might want to change the name. HB2072 is no longer. If this appears again, it will most likely have a different number. Basically, when calling legislators and representatives, HB2072 is a non issue. The concept behind it, however, is alive and well. Just trying to help as I hope you get the word out to the masses and thanks.

...and donate time and/or money to the organization that represents you best.

Yup, too many opinions and differences in them. That's why religion, politics, taste in music, etc are touchy subjects and can ruin an otherwise good time. I have many friends all with different beliefs and we get along great because we don't push the issues with each other. Agree to disagree. Good post AZbowhntr.

bump. Gary, I did as Allen requested and did post on MM and spread the word to others. Some told me you did the same.

TJ, I agree, it's easy to forget the simple and important things in life when all this is going on. I'm with you on taking a breather. Right now we must remain vigilant as things are progressing at a fast pace. This is where "doing" is more important that "talking" if you know what I mean. I hope I don't have to explain myself on that one. I do think people know what you mean.

Thanks for the update Allen. We must remain vigilant as well as continue to spread the word.

Done!

You guys don't mess around! It was great getting the texts with your finds everyday Phil. (rubbin' it in I tell ya!)

Thanks for sharing the trip Jim. Like the slight palmation on the top end of that shed. Nice lookin' dogs.

Pretty cool. I gotta get home tonight and read the pages. Thanks for taking the pic for us.

Nice pictures Amanda. This time of year must be perfect there. I love seeing the dogs all wiped out resting. Cool beaver skull.

Our state could always use it. C'mon antler growth and forage! It rained pretty darn good in the East valley of Phoenix last night. Scattered showers through the early morning as well. How have things been in your neck of the woods?

Happy Birthday!

"I"m dreeeaaaming of a whiiiite Chriiiistmaaas!"

Thanks for clearing that up Allen. In case you missed it, Jim acknowledeged that it was he that edited the post. That is not required and is his doing. He obviously saved Amanda a lot of grief and in turn knew that people would question him. I commend him for that and if you all need Jim to explain himself, you either don't know Jim Mullins or haven't been here long enough. I look forward to the forum returning to the civil days of old.

JACK, Thanks for coming on and giving us your views. Everyone is entitled to an opinion and you do bring some valid points. I agree, there are several good folks that have done a lot for wildlife. They, unfortunately did not have the foresight in regards to seeing the backlash they have and will continue to receive from sportsmen and women in this state. One can only imagine the situation if the initial bill would have been pushed through. "Made a mistake" is not even close to describing what they did. In regards to apologizing for what they did, I have yet to grasp that notion since they continue to secretly lobby for a bill such as the initial one. Not only with Susan Gilstrap at the forefront, but now including people from all over the hunting community such as certain outfitters and guides that in my opinion, would benefit greatly from deals with those behind this push. Remember, when they said "it's a dead bill, a non-issue, let's move on..." all of a sudden we hear that proponents of the bill met with the Governors staff. Dead idea behind the bill?...yeah right. All this while AZSFW continues to keep everyone in the dark with everything. When I say that, I mean, where are the minutes from their meetings? Like Allen stated, where are their plans for tackling the issues we in AZ face? Even after realizing their "mistake" in how the bill was never debated, where is the debate with them now? Exactly. Right now, AZSFW is enemy #1. They have divided us sportsmen in the state. It was their doing, their decision, not ours. Worse part is, they continue to do so. I am happy to say, I have educated as many people as I can about this issue. Many are still in the dark about it, but we will continue to spread the word to those that lend an ear. In many forms, I am happy to say that it is banding us together, getting rid of some of that hunter apathy that AZSFW relied on. Yes the critter groups trusted (past tense) AZSFW enough to pay the required fee to sit on the board. (call it a donation if you want to sugar coat it) No the critter organizations do not call on all their members anytime there is a need for opinion. That is exactly why I found it ludicrous that the ADA thought it was now a good idea to do just that regarding support for AZSFW. They didn't ask us BEFORE they joined, so why now? Good point you brought up, I'm being honest, because I agree with you. What I find most disturbing is how even these critter orgs that sat on the AZSFWC board, were oblivious (I use that term loosely) to the initial bills mere existence. Where is the transparency? Where is the communication? Where is the Trust? I can answer the last one...gone.

Ha ha! No worries TJ! Great minds think alike! Starting to get windy again!