1uglydude

If this is really how it works, then that means that I drew a tag too.

I always used to mail on Friday, but the year I landed the hardest to pull leftover tag I had mailed it on Saturday. Now that's what I always do. I imagine a pile of mail that came in on Saturday sitting in a box, the mail coming in Monday morning landing on top of the pile at opening time, and the draw people working from the top of the pile. Don't know if that's how it works, but it has worked well for me.

Sounds like an adventure, good luck! If you aren't married to your new bullet choice, I'll throw some props out for the new Barnes 129gr LRX. We used it last year for devastating results on elk. Barnes formulates to expand at as low as 1600-1700 fps. With the lighter weight, you can get a lot of velocity and more energy for the medium range shots too.

I'm assuming you're joking? Or is it the late hunt? I don't think there is a late hunt limited to 23 south. So, he's either joking or mixing it up with 22 South, which the guy above says he drew. For what it's worth, he'd be wrong about that one too. Yep...there be elk all over both those units! Granted, you might need two or three days to pack one out. :-)

I'm assuming you're joking? Or is it the late hunt? I don't think there is a late hunt limited to 23 south. So, he's either joking or mixing it up with 22 South, which the guy above says he drew. For what it's worth, he'd be wrong about that one too.

If you applied on paper, then they will have a copy of it for you to review. If you applied online, then you should have your own confirmation of what you applied for. If it was their mistake, you'll be sitting pretty...if it was your mistake, then enjoy your cow hunt.

Show them the charge for your application and you should be good to go. If you didn't get charged and didn't get a confirmation email, then you may be out of luck...but I'm assuming you would have noticed if you hadn't received those.

Are you talking about the Hopi tags that are leftover? No, the 3 4a general bull tags. Yeah, those are Hopi tags bud. You can tell because they start with 38##

Are you talking about the Hopi tags that are leftover?

When they first made that change it was only for non-residents, and residents were still limited to one genus per application year for LE hunts. Do you know if they now allow residents to do the same?

Josh, during the March Commission meeting the Department noted that the contract with the vendor that does all of the automated credit card processing for ALL state agencies was due to expire on March 26th. It wasn't explicitly said, but it seemed to be implied that they were shooting to finish up the draw before that date so that they wouldn't have any issues. Obviously, they had problems running the actual draw, which (and this is a huge guess on my part) means that they weren't actually able to run everything before the contract expired. That being the case, I wouldn't doubt it if the longer than usual delay can be attributed to the fact that they are, in fact, having to manually run some cards. That's why some of the rumors about guys getting calls from the Department as late as last week may actually be true. At the March meeting, the guy who reported from the Department said something to the effect of "after the contract expires on March 26, we do not have any system in place for running cards for the draw." He said that they system they were developing for the deer draw should be ready in time for that draw, but that it currently has some serious issues. When the March minutes are available I'm going to look back to see exactly what was recorded.

To be fair, I think edited my question about the same time I think you were responding. Bison, sheep, and pronghorn all may have a creep problem. The last time I checked, all the other hunts only have the issue for non-residents. When I get some time I will look at it again. The 10% non-resident cap makes it look like creep is happening on the basic draw reports, but when you drill down into it you see that it doesn't impact residents.

Please identify which deer and elk hunts have problems with "point creep" for RESIDENT hunters.

I have an unopened one pound can of H335. I want an unopened can of H4831sc. Must be short cut. Not interested in selling, the last guy who gave me a sob story about needing the powder for an upcoming hunt flipped it on another board with a 40% markup. Now I just want powder for powder.

There are 5000 applicants for premium hunts that have 25 to 100 tags. On those hunts you're only removing 25 to 100 applicants the next year, so odds are only improved by 0.01% for those hunts. There are less than 500 "premium" elk tags offered in any year. How does punishing the 19,500 other guys who are fine wth late season bull and cow tags justify increasing odds by 0.01% for guys who are already resigned to waiting many years?

That's an early rifle hunt in the rut. Very different from the late hunt, as many ill-informed have learned the hard way.

Who keeps starting these rumors? Waiting periods are not being considered as part of the Article 1 amendments. I won't go into why they won't work anyways because people don't seem to like it when you show them the math. perhaps some misunderstanding regarding the meeting minutes.. Motion: Harris moved and Mansell seconded THAT THE COMMISSION VOTE TO LIFT THE NONRESIDENT CAP FOR JAVELINA AND TO APPROVE A ONE YEAR WAITING PERIOD FOR YOUTH ONLY. Commissioner Davis clarified with Chairman Harris that the motion was for the Department to bring back some language and evaluation of the impact of a potential one year waiting period for youth only, and that this was for the report only and not a determination to implement at this point. Vote: Unanimous 4 to 0 I stand corrected. Thanks for pointing that out. I followed the process early on and wasn't able to watch the January Commission meeting. It sounds like the waiting period is direction that came from the dais. Guess I need to stop calling it a rumor. Glad the waiting period for bull hunts is off the table. It would only hurt those of us willing to hunt on late season tags.

Who keeps starting these rumors? Waiting periods are not being considered as part of the Article 1 amendments. I won't go into why they won't work anyways because people don't seem to like it when you show them the math.

What unit is easier to draw then a youth hunt other then a dec hunt in 7,9 or 10,i am not seeing it can you tell me what units you are looking at so I can put my grandson in there,what about the adults put in for these hunts and give the tags to there kids. I will send you a PM

In the future, I think everyone should take a close look at exactly how bad the odds for youth cow tags are compared to some of the general rifle cow tags out there. Personally, I won't be putting my kids in for youth cow tags. Why have a kid possibly draw once every four years when he can pull a standard cow tag every other year? Kids lose interest fast. I'd rather pony up an extra $80 and hunt a few weeks later in the year than have my kid sitting at home year after year.

Congrats. I'd put money on it being the two archery tags. You have at least a 1/10 chance of picking one up in those units in any given year. The early bull tag would be less than 1%, plus whatever odds would have been stacked up against him for the cow tag.

Muzzleloader scopes are designed specifically for the recoil of that type of weapon. Typically, this means giving the shooter greater eye relief. Vortex is already notorious for giving the absolute minimum eye relief of just about any scope manufacturer, so be careful the first time you pull that trigger using a riflescope on a muzzleloader. I have the Omega, and I also have the $75 Cabelas Powderhorn BDC. I like them both very much and have never had a problem holding zero or seeing a critter out to 200 yards in low light.

Thanks, I like the idea but he won't be 10 until September. One way or another I'm going to get him out hunting this fall. If not elk than deer, and if neither of those work out I'll get him out predator calling. There are always leftover junior javelina tags in the fall, and junior fall turkey is OTC.

Based on how the draw works, I think "idiot" would be a great term for whomever came up with that rumor. If not "idiot," then "ignorant" and "irresponsible." That would be like saying "only people who's last names begin with A-L are being considered first."

Because they're messing with all of you worry-warts...that's why. Sheesh.