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Good job Matt--i was going to tell him to go to the same place. So what if it is fishy--who cares! If it is a youth then he will be hooked for life if he kills a pig--if it isn't a youth and he hasn't killed a pig he will be hooked if he does. Man i get tired of people not wanting to help others--i just don't get it.

Bigfoot!!!!!!

I think they hit the nail on the head when they discussed the DNA or genetic diversity. If there are only one group of sheep on sheep mountain and there has never been new introduction of some other gene pool then essentially you have inbreeding with brothers and sisters or mothers and sons--this will end up killing the size and the intelligence of these animals. As for the elk being less likely to have monster antlers--i call b.s.! We have more elk with bigger antlers than ever before (or at least until we started keeping record books) true commercial hunting has a bad effect on animals because they are not looking at any type of animal they just want the most and to get them to stores but we don't commercial hunt. Also, if a young buck breeds with a doe and his Pappy was a stud of a buck doesn't he still have the genes of that monster Daddy? Sure he does so i am not sure a younger buck or bull is the problem here. I am far from being a biologist or a geneticist but man sometimes common sense has to come to the for front--don't ya think?

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This is a Limited Edition Sam Walton (Wal-Mart founder) Shotgun. Manufactured in 2001. It is a Special Upland Field with English Style Stock. Barrel is 23" with Vent Rib & 3 Invectors. Two Gold Inlays (one on each side of Receiver) with one being Sam's Signature & the other being an upper torso impression. I am asking $525.00 for this shot gun. It is brand new in the box still. 20 gauge

Josh, Really good to meet you yesterday! Very nice pig (41 pounder) and you have two really great little boys!! Hope to see you in the future! Now go get that 3x3!!

For those of you who have not signed up and want to participate in the contest there still is time!! Archers have to have their entry in no later than Wednesday at midnight!! If you want to get in and you are afraid you can not make the cut off by mail you have a couple of choices--one, bring it to my house or two send it to me by paypal--if you use paypal you will have to pay $14.50 to cover what paypal charges me to use their service. We have around 10 people for the archery category and no one for the rest of the hunts but me!! If you want to pay by paypal you can pay by using arizonaoutfitter@cox.net Thanks!! PS--Brian, Frank has posted his address on my site if you want to go there and look at it.

Wish i could help you but i have the outdoorsman tripod and Jim White head on my set up--the Jim White head is very sturdy and very easy to use. If you are having problems you may want to call down there and speak to Terry--he can help you out with your issue.

Awesome country Josh--your right, there is more to the hunt than the kill!!!

Lance--that was hilarious and well stated!! I guide--i love to guide and the people i guide may not fly from their home thousands of miles away to pre-scout but at the same time they don't come out to just shoot either. Sure, there are times when a client shows up and everything comes together but most of the time we have to hunt and he or she is right next to me looking as hard as i am to find that animal. I guide antelope hunters most of the time and i am blessed in the sense that i can judge antelope pretty well--most of the antelope hunters that come out would shoot the first 13 to 14 inch buck they see--not because they are lousy hunters but because they just do not know what they are looking at when it comes to antelope. Last year i had a 75 year old client in New Mexico--he has been hunting his entire life and he has taken many good animals--in fact he lives in Cody, Wyoming! He has shot dozens of antelope but he has never put one in the books--he hired Tony Grimmett and Tony hired me to take him out---we had a beautiful buck at first light that would make anyone proud but because his prongs flared out and his bases were thin he wouldn't make the books--most hunters would have cracked him on the spot thinking he was an 83 to 84" buck but he would barley make 78"--maybe next year he will make it but not this year. We hunted most of the day looking for a monster i wanted him to kill but that buck must have slipped off to the other ranch next door--so, because he hired a guide and the guide knew what he was looking at and where number 2 was, we went after a buck i had named spooky--he was just that and we had to get on our feet and hunt this buck hard--the client was warn out when we finally got his 87" buck back to the truck and he stated "This is the best hunt i have ever been on!" are you kidding me? he is that old and this was the best hunt he had been on! Wow--i guess the satisfaction for him was better than he had ever had--i was obviously happy he felt that way. I could go on and on but the bottom line is we all hunt but we all do not have the same amount of time or the resources to spend on a full fledged scouting trip--especially when you live a long ways from where you will hunt. Guiding is for some and there is nothing wrong with it--if you don't need a guide then you are blessed to live in the place you will hunt but if you ever head to Alaska, or even Montana or Wyoming get ready to feel totally lost because you won't have a clue where to start hunting and that is where guides come in to the equation.

Me thinks 1904 beans!

We found a 6 or 7 month old Black and Tan up elk hunting--no tags, no info and she was crapping elk hair for a day and a half--she now belongs to my daughter and i doubt she would give her back. We posted ads in the paper and posted a found pup on the Long Valley Gas Station--no one called. She is an awesome pup.

Thanks Amanda!! Nope they call 50 just plain old--but what the heck i don't feel much older than i did last year!

Brian, I will get the address from Frank and post it for you.

Rules have been posted on the link i sent out. If you want to get in now is the time!!

Yes Casey but now the Kitty's have to play a real team--i think you know the team--BYU!! Go Cougars!!!

I wrote this story and added pictures yesterday over at my site--if you want to read about it just click here: http://www.thearizonahunter.com/forum/view...f=18&t=1077 We had an awesome time with family up there--Turkey day was spent in the pines while the snow was falling and i can't think of a better way to spend a weekend!

Great job DUG!! Nice looking bull and a lot of good eating to come.

Good luck folks and be careful! I am up to 5A for my bull hunt with my Dad, daughter, and son in law--this will be the first family hunt we have had in a long time and what better way to celebrate t-day than with family in a elk camp!!

Jim, when Bryan sent me the cell phone pic i almost fell out of my chair!! All i could say was Holy Chit!!!! he is beautiful!! I hope Bryan got back on that 180 he passed up--or he gets one bigger. The weather will help him this weekend i think. Congrats man!!

Me thinks someone has already put the smack down to this buck from the way some of these fellas are responding--come on, what gives? tell the story already!!

Heck, i think i have a small tear going down my face right now--what a great story Joe and tell Garrett he is a stud!!

He has the same effect on people as Jim Jones had just before they drank the koolaid of death--unbelievable--really!

That is what that was in the tree--now i see it plain as day--real good eye's!

4 yotes in the first one and one lion in the second one--the one yote looks to be pregnant--am i missing something?