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I was counting the foward point as the abnormal point. Now that I look more closely at the headon pic I may be a couples inches short on that tine due to the hook inward on that tine. A couple other tines hook also so we may have to add a few inches. I'd say 200" gross and no more than that with the narrow inside spread.

younghunter, With that new tripod and new Swarovski 15x56 you should be in good shape. Shoot straight and post the pics of the big buck you get

If the first scope is a VariXII it is a step up from the Rifleman. The Rifleman is a fairly new scope from Luepold and is an entry level scope. On the subject of Wally world, I won't shop there and thats a whole different can of worms.

I give him: 22" inside 23" beams 18" g2's 15&12" g3's 12&11" g4's 1" g1 34" on mass 6" for inline cheater gross=195" solid bone matthewp45, put a tag on the brute then a tape

I think the red summer coat and the fact that the flash from the camera may be washing the picture out somewhat is adding to some of the confusion. Maybe

I won't even guess ... it's a beautiful buck and no sane hunter would pass it up, but am I the only one to wonder just what it is? Its body shape and antler configeration (forget the abnormal forked rear tines) say "whitetail" to me. But that tail is something else. It's neither mule deer or whitetail. Could it be a hybrid? Bill Q <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I've seen deer in CA that had a mule deer tail with a thin black line down the tail. I've always considered them a cross between a mule deer and a blacktail deer. Have also seen pics of muleys from Texas with this thin black line. So who knows for sure. This buck has that line but it only goes a short ways down the tail. What ever he is I'd say he leans heavily towards the muley side and he is BIG

Here comes the march of the guinea fowl

Well said kwp. Emphasis on you knowledgable members

Hey, I only saw the first pic. That buck just got bigger with the other angles. I'm going with 193 gross

I come up with 184. Regardless of my guess he's a keeper

I don't know about somebody there controlling the camera, the hyena walked one way and the camera panned the other way. I jumped out of my chair hollerin

Just an idea but I'd be willing to through in some cash for my entry in the big buck contest. Any other ideas?

Saw a hyena a short while ago. This night vision is cool The only thing that drives me crazy is I can't control the camera

How do they, I mean with the shell, ah forget it

Finally saw a predator, a jackal, just now.

This thing is so cool I'm hooked. I've seen warthogs, impala, waterbuck, ostrich, some strange birds and about a million guinea fowl. Where are the critters with fangs? Looks like a guinea smorgasbord

Well said Bill. The magazine Fair Chase is published by the Boone & Crockett club. The author, Jim Heffelfinger, is a game specialist with the AZ. game & fish. The article is on the DNA differences in the mule/blktail subspecies and he does state that some experts believe the Inyo and Burro as distinct entities while others do not. It's a pretty good article. I do believe in the SCI breakdown of the subspecies for the most part and am a proud member.

Allen, I agree with you 100%, today is a whole different story. With most of us having a family to support it is getting more and more difficult to do all of these different hunts. couesnut, I never said anything to dissrespect Jay or his accomplishments. Just stating the facts of todays rising cost of hunting away from home. p.s. Allen I'm thinking about going to Kodiak Is. to get that sitka I guess you're the only one on this forum to get a deer slam, you're the man

257stw, Thats some nice bone

The quote wasn't mine. What I'm am saying is you've got to have money to do that much hunting or make your living hunting. I know he makes some money as an author writing about his hunts, I have read many of them and know of some of his accomplishments. What I'm saying is if a good hunter that can shoot straight, had the money, time off work, some good tips on where to hunt, he or she could take a deer slam. I didn't say they had to be record book heads or even close, any mature animal is a trophy. Also notice the smile at the end of my comment-

I agree with Amanda, hunt hard everday in the field regardless of moon phase or weather (there are exceptions) and good things will happen. As far as moon phases, I know guys that swear by hunting the phases of the moon. I also feel strongly that a specific deer herd in a specific area will react differently to moon phases based on hunting pressure, pressure from predators, available feed etc. I have seen deer on refuges that feed in the open all day everyday reguardless to the moon phase. Hunt hard, Hunt smart

.......p.s. Jay Gates completed it like 6 times......he is a god.......LOL........ <{POST_SNAPBACK}> All it takes is $$ and the right connections. You do have to be a good hunter and shoot straight but the above is a huge help.

Shiras, this is true. I have seen this debate by biologists for awhile now. Wonder what Dr. Valerius Geist view is on this subject? Bill Q., any take on this?

Deer will normaly hunker down if it is very windy, though I have seen them out feeding if they are in a sheltered area. With a fill moon, or close to full, deer will feed heavily at night and bed very early in the morning. It is a good idea to be out hunting midday as the deer will tend to get up and feed for a short period and find a new bed as the sun shifts.