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Lowered to $790 obo. Thanks

I have a Browning A-Bolt Medallion in great shape in .223. It come with the Leupold 6-20 X 40 vari X III scope mounted and a Harris extendable Bi-pod. The rifle is in good condition with minor nicks and scratches. The scope has a few nicks and scratches from being leaned against rocks and stuff. Asking $850 obo. Thanks. Steve rthrbhntng@cox.net.

I have this spotting scope for sale. It is in great condition and is a Swarovski CT-85 telescopic scope. Collapsed it is 13" with the eyepiece. It comes with the Swarovski soft case that stays on during use. The case is made for the scope without the eye piece on so if you leave the eyepiece on all the time then you can't zip the case closed. Asking $1400 obo. Thanks Steve, rthrbhntng@cox.net

Still for sale. Thanks for looking. Steve

I would have to say $450 obo for the rifle without the scope. Thanks

Arizona Elk, Deer and Wolves. The wolf people, including those groups like the Humane Society of the United States, PETA, the Sierra Club, and Defenders of Wildlife, want to do away with Elk and Deer hunting, want to expand the wolf population in Arizona to include all Elk and Deer habitat across the central part of the state as well as north of the Grand Canyon. The maps they are using overlay, almost perfectly, all the Elk and Deer habitat in the state. These groups will stop at nothing and have authored many articles without including all the information about the truth. Look how long it took Montana, Wyoming and Idaho to get hunting of the wolves and now they are back in court spending millions of dollars fighting the wolf people that want the hunting to stop, even though it was always part of the plan from the beginning. We don’t need this in Arizona. Please take a few minutes and protect our Elk, Deer, Antelope and Big Horn Sheep hunting here in Arizona. Send an email to mexwolf@azgfd.gov or mail it to Mexican Wolf Project, Attn: Terry Johnson, 5000 W. Carefree Highway, Phoenix, AZ. 85086. We have until June 25th to comment. Points to include in your comments: • Sportsmen have paid to bring back wildlife, including elk and bighorn sheep to the State and want to maintain them. • The current drought situation has kept our elk, deer and cattle herds low and in many cases dwindling and any expansion of the wolf population or wolf recovery area could decimate them. • Protection of our hunting heritage is extremely important for the continuation of Arizona’s wildlife management programs. • The current wolf program has failed to meet its objectives. To expand it will only compound the problem. • I would not like to see any expansion of the current wolf population.

Swarovski CT-85 Spotting Scope Brilliant optical performance whatever the light conditions, in many different viewing situations. An extension mechanism that has proved itself, compact dimensions for transportation and the ideal extended length enables frequent changes of location and undisturbed observation. • High light gathering power due to the large objective lens and a high-quality optical system for bright, contrasty images even in bad light conditions. • Includes 20-60x zoom eyepiece. • Bayonet fitting for faster and simpler changeover • Scale for range adjustment allows faster focusing. • Close focusing distance: down to 8 m (26 ft.) • 2 times extending: Dimensions for transport: 246 mm (9.7 inch). Without Eyepiece. • Eyepiece with turn-back eyecup for a full field of view, even for spectacle wearers • Integrated pull-out sun shield. Stops glare and diffused light as well as protecting against rain and snow. • Precise, smooth pull-out mechanism. • Shock and noise dampening rubber armoring stays pleasant to handle even in cold weather. • Filter system for cleaning air. Keeps dust and dirt out for clean and clear lenses and prisms. I have been extremely happy with this scope. I don’t use it enough to warrant having it. Comes with a Swarovski custom soft cast that stays on while you are using the scope. The case is made to fit with the eyepiece off so if you have it on you can’t zip the end shut. $1500 rthrbhntng@cox.net

This project is coming up soon. Thanks

FOR SALE: Browning A-Bolt Medallion, .223, wood stock. Includes Leupold 6.5-20 X40mm Vari-X III Scope and Harris Bipod 1A2 Ultralight, extends 12”-27”. Rifle is in great condition but has a few small dings and scratches. Scope is fine except for a few scratches from setting down on the ground and leaning against rocks. This is a tack driver rifle great for varmint shooting. Fantastic at long distance prairie doggin. I would like to get $1000. Steve Rthrbhntng@cox.net

You will find the current projects here: http://www.azgfd.gov/w_c/hpc.shtml Steve

Now listed for $400 OBO. rthrbhntng@cox.net

This is my back up bow that I am selling. It is a great shooting accurate bow. Comes with a Trophy Take drop away rest, Bowtech quiver, and Doinker stabilizer. Great shape and new Winners Choice string and cable. $475 OBO. rthrbhntng@cox.net.

The Arizona Elk Society has scheduled a work project for the weekend of MAY 31-JUNE 1. Burro Creek area around Big Lake is where we will be removing up to 15 miles of barbed wire fencing South of Big Lake. These fences cross good Antelope, Elk and Deer habitat. It will be a significant benefit to remove these fences. We will be removing and rolling up wire, pulling and hauling out posts (steel and wood). We need a lot of help on this project so please mark your calendars. We will be providing meals Friday night, Saturday breakfast, lunch and dinner (rumor has it Tom’s having lobster), and Sunday breakfast. We need fence rolling equipment, post pullers, pliers and as many able bodied volunteers as possible. We will be working with barbed wire and lots of it. Bring your sun block, hats, gloves and long sleeved shirts and pants. Be prepared for all kinds of weather. We need around 60 people. There will be time in the afternoons to fish at Big Lake and Crescent Lake. The main camp will be in the woods near Big Lake. You can camp at the Big Lake Camp Ground but you will be responsible for getting your own reservations. Call or email Tom Schorr. It will be good to RSVP so we can plan on food. 602-431-4131. Email thomas.schorr@fcssw.com.

AES Burro Creek/Big Lake Fence Removal Project Who: Arizona Elk Society, www.arizonaelksociety.org When: May 30-June 1, 2008 Where: Main Camp will be at Dipping Vat Spring campsite just north Crescent Lake. SW of Springerville, AZ. From Showlow take Highway 260 East toward Springerville, turn south on paved Highway 273 (3 mi east of Springerville) and head south 19 miles. Look for signs at campsite on right side of the road. Camping is also available at Big Lake campground. Meals and meetings will take place at Dipping Vat Springs. Description: Burro Creek is where we continue to remove barbed wire fencing in Big Lake area. These fences cross good Antelope, Elk and Deer habitat. It will be a significant benefit to remove these fences. We will be removing and rolling up wire, pulling and hauling out posts (steel and wood). We need a lot of help on this project so please mark your calendars. We will be providing meals Friday night, Saturday breakfast, lunch and dinner, and Sunday breakfast. We need fence rolling equipment, post pullers, pliers and as many able bodied volunteers as possible. We will be working with barbed wire and lots of it. Bring your sun block, hats, gloves and long sleeved shirts and pants. Be prepared for all kinds of weather. We need around 50 volunteers. Plan on arriving in the afternoon of Friday May 30th. Breakfast will be at 7:00 am Saturday and we will start working at 8:00 am. After Sunday breakfast we will work until about noon then pack up. If you would like to carpool, please contact Tom. Check our website www.arizonaelksociety.org for more information. Contact: Please RSVP to Tom Schorr at thomas.schorr@fcssw.com or call 602-431-4131.

AES 26 Bar Adopt-A-Ranch Work Project Who: Arizona Elk Society, www.arizonaelksociety.org When: June 27-29, 2008 Where: Main Camp will be at Dipping Vat Spring campsite just north Crescent Lake. SW of Springerville, AZ. From Showlow take Highway 260 East toward Springerville, turn south on paved Highway 273 (3 mi east of Springerville) and head south 19 miles. Look for signs at campsite on right side of the road. This is primitive Camping. (There are no facilities) Camping is also available at Big Lake campground. Meals and meetings will take place at Dipping Vat Springs. Description: The 26 Bar Ranch near Springerville is the AES Adopt-A-Ranch where every year we work on projects for the ranch that pertain to elk conflict issues. The work will be done in the woods near Big Lake. The projects, in no particular order, are: 1. Fence repair/ maintenance is needed around a cattle-exclosure area, which provides forage for elk. 2. A spring needs to be ‘revamped’. This spring will not require a backhoe or as much work as the springs we worked on last year, but we would replace the drinker, maybe add a short bit of pipeline, hook everything up, and do a little maintenance around it. 3. The repair of a wildlife trick tank with a 20,000 gallon storage that needs have the rust ground off then repair the leaks in the tank itself as well as the drinkers. We need approximately 20-25 people to accomplish this project. The actual work finished depends on the number of workers. Tools: Please bring pliers, gloves, and wire cutters if you have them. Some of these items will also be provided. Please make sure you bring appropriate hats, long sleeve shirts, sunblock etc for sun protection. Also be prepared for cool mornings and even possibly rain. Old clothes would be recommended for those grinding on the tanks. We need a lot of help on this project so please mark your calendars. We will be providing meals Friday night, Saturday breakfast, lunch and dinner, and Sunday breakfast. If you would like to carpool, please contact Tom. Check our website www.arizonaelksociety.org for more information. Contact: Please RSVP to Tom Schorr at thomas.schorr@fcssw.com or call 602-431-4131.

The Elk Tag went for $195,000. The Antelope tag went for $62,500 Steve

The buck was killed by Steve Hanson from Straight Arrow Outfitters. He donates every year to the Arizona Elk Society banquet. Great guy. Here is a link to the story. http://www.mossyoak.com/content/OutdoorIns...owUnsub=hunting Steve

I have the Leica 900. Had the leica LRF 800 and the Swaovski. It does not compare in optics to the others. Swaro is great optics and is easier to glass through, but, it takes more time to acquire and I don't like that for bowhunting. I thought the 1200 was overkill. Steve

Cabela's MT 050. Never had a problem. Steve

Troy, You are correct. I recieved the link but did not go to the title of the thread. Sorry Steve

“This is what happened- A very good friend of mine was helping out on a 5bs cow hunt and the hunter was a 14yr old boy on his first hunt and this cow was his first harvest. After they took care of the animal they pulled into this youth camp for the shindig that they were having and after arriving one of the volunteers walks over and looks at this boy's tag and tells the boy "This is not a junior tag" and pretty much shunned him off. At no time did anybody from that camp offer the boy a hot dog ,hamburger ,soda or even to take part in the festivities.” Troy, My name is Steve Clark and I am the current Pres of the Arizona Elk Society. I was present at the AES Youth Camp all weekend. I don’t know if the camp you are referring to is the camp that the Arizona Elk Society set up at the Happy Jack Lodge but I am going to tell it like it was. First off, congratulations to all the youths and hunters that were successful in the elk hunts, I know that the meat processors around Happy Jack and Clint’s’ Wells were busier than they have ever been. After the weather cooled there were long lines at the processors dropping off their elk. It was great to see the processors making sure that the kids were involved in skinning their elk. At the AES Youth Camp we never checked tags and welcomed all youths including those that weren’t even hunting. (A side note here would be that if the youth already dropped off his elk he wouldn’t even have a tag to show) We had give-a-ways and gave something to all the kids that we could. The AES manned an archery setup for all the kids to shoot. We and G&F thought that by providing the archery range for the kids it would broaden there hunting opportunities. Fri and Sat we had many kids stop by camp to shoot the equipment. Food and refreshments were available for any persons that stopped by regardless of where or even if they were hunting. G&F had sent out press releases to all the surrounding communities inviting anyone that was interested to stop by and check out the camp and shoot the archery equipment. FWIW The AES fed over 320 people throughout the weekend and talked to 140-150 youths. Many hunters came if asking for advice on where to locate elk. We had guides in camp and volunteers that were scouting the woods relaying the advice to hunters that were having a hard time finding elk. It is very rewarding to be able to talk to all the kids that stopped by about how there hunt was going and to see them beaming with pride while telling the stories of the elk that they harvested and the ones that got away. I was amazed at how many mothers were on the hunts with their kids. Volunteering for these types of camps and events is one of the most rewarding things I have ever done. Helpings youth learn to enjoy hunting whether they are successfull or not and being part of passing on the hunting heritage to our youth is one of the main goals of the Arizona Elk Society. Any time we have an event all sportsmen are invited to stop by, help out or just stop and BS. One of the highlights for me at this years camp was being able to help a group of hunters that included 3 generations of AZ hunters. A grandfather, Father and his son came to the camp to ask for help in locating their vehicle. They had got turned around and couldn’t find there truck. After going over the maps and driving to where we thought the truck was we located their truck. It was rewarding to see all three generations out there together hunting. Steve

Most of the wildlife groups can't fight political battles and for that reason concentrate on habitat, youth involvement and other projects for the wildlife and hunting heritage. This is regulated by being a 501-C3 Non-Profit. If you really want to be heard you need to be educated about the processes that are involved in the political end of the G&F. AZSFW is fighting many of the political battles. I know that they don't go around tooting their horn but they are a very powerful force in the wildlife society and have the power and money to fight. The only groups that can put more into the political arena are the AZSFW, WCC, and AWF. The AZSFW and WCC have teamed up to finance an email newsletter to let the Sportsmen know about what is happening in AZ. The last issue was full of stuff that you need to know about that happened at the last Commission meeting. AZSFW and the WCC have interviews and set criteria to make sure that they support new Commissioners that are good for the wildlife, hunting and habitat in AZ. EVEN IF YOU DON'T WANT TO JOIN AT LEAST SIGN UP FOR THE EMAIL NEWSLETTER SO YOU REALLY KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON. To sign up go here: http://www.arizonasportsmenforwildlife.org/index.asp To read the last newsletter go here: http://www.arizonasportsmenforwildlife.org...ewsletter-2.htm Steve Arizona Elk Society

August 24, 25, 26th UNIT 9 WATER CATCHMENT PROJECT We plan to work on catchment #256. This is an old concrete catchment that currently holds about 2000 gallons when full. We will replace the concrete with 3 new fiberglass storage tanks and a new drinker that will have a storage capacity of +20,000 gallons. We will also replace the barbed wire fence surrounding the catchment with a new pipe rail fence. To complete the entire project will require a little more than the two day work weekend, regardless of the number of volunteers who come, because various steps require setting posts in concrete and allowing them to dry overnight before proceeding with the next step. If we can find 7 people who can arrive Friday (August 24), we would have a good chance to get it all done by Sunday afternoon. We will need at least one welder (and preferably 2). AGFD and/or a local company will likely provide one welder. In July, the temperatures should be about 85 degrees in the daytime and 45 degrees at night. Afternoon thunderstorms are likely, so people should be prepared to camp and work in wet weather. We will camp near the job site which is in pine, pinyon-juniper habitat. There will be no drinking water or toilets available. Road access, if dry, is good for all types of vehicles and trailers. If roads are very wet, high clearance vehicles and/or 4WD will be needed. TOOLS WE WILL BE NEEDING AND USING. electric jack hammer with spade bit cement mixer welder and welding machine generator screw guns w/ socket sets shovels/picks/hard rakes AGFD will provide the basic equipment for the job, but volunteers might bring: shovels, hard rakes, electric extension cords, ¾” wrenches, electric or battery drill, wheel barrow. People should bring work gloves, suntan lotion, sun glasses, wide brimmed hat and plenty of drinking water. Directions to August 24-26 project and camp: - from Flagstaff, go west on Interstate 40 to Williams. - take Highway 64 exit north toward the Grand Canyon - north on Hwy 64 to Tusayan (about 50 miles) - as you enter Tusayan, turn east (right) on Forest Road 302. - Take Forest Road 302 east for about 13.9 miles until it “T”s into Forest Road 310. - CAMPING – Turn left on 310 and go 0.1 mi. to camp on either side of the road. - PROJECT - Turn right on Forest Road 310. - Follow Forest Road 310 for 2.3 miles. Catchment is visible on the left side of road. CONTACT FOR INFO AND TO RSVP: People can contact Greg Stainton (602) 999-5855 and email gstainton3@cox.net If people are able to attend, it is important that we have a current way to get hold of them. A phone number or email address would be fine.

I copied this from the G&F website. It is a short rundown on the Auction and Raffle tag monies that are raised. One point that I think is important for the public is to know that when we sit down to prioritize the funding all the groups coordinate on the projects so this is not a one species decision. Most of the projects benefit more than one or two species of Big Game animals as well as lots of non-game wildlife. Habitat Partnerships Habitat Partnerships play an important role in developing proposals that benefit wildlife habitat and reduce conflicts with other public land uses. Originating as a means to deal with elk livestock conflicts, the process developed into one to benefit all big game species. The sale of Special Big Game License Tags has provided a funding source that can be used to match funds from outside partners, including land management agencies, nongovernmental organizations, and federal fund sources, to create landscape habitat plans and bring them to completion. Habitat Partnership Committees also provide a forum for furthering discussion and collaboration about wildlife management decisions. Projects are solicited annually on September 1 and evaluated by an internal Department team for wildlife priority ranking. Funding of projects is then sought through a variety of sources, although primarily through Special Big Game Tag Funds. Projects funded through this source are discussed and coordinated with the nongovernmental organizations that raised the funds, through the sales, by auction or raffle, of the Special Big Game License tags. Other fund sources (e.g., Landowner Incentive Program grants) are incorporated into the process. An Arizona Game and Fish Commissioner is the chair of the Committee that approves final projects. Special Big Game Tag Fund Process Under the authority of ARS 17-346 and Commission Rule R12-4-120, the Arizona Game and Fish Commission awards 3 Big Game License Tags for 9 big game species each, per year to qualifying conservation organizations who sell the tags by auction or raffle at their annual fundraising events. The proceeds of these sales are returned to the Department and used to fund habitat and management projects for the benefit of the game species for which the funds are raised. Management and research projects are eligible for funding, although most projects are submitted through the Habitat Partnership Committee Process. Projects are evaluated by the Department, and priority project funding is coordinated with the qualifying conservation organizations that raised the funds. Steve

My guess would be 122" Steve