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Rifle scabbard is sold (thanks Steve!) Reasonable offers welcome on other items. Also have "The Shotgun Book" by Jack O'Connor. Good condition, w/ dust jacket. $35. These O'Connor classics are entertaining to read, and full of common-sense advice based on shooting experience that is mostly not available anymore (but still useful). They are nice to have on the bookshelf next to the shoulder mounts.

I will take the sleeping bags. PM sent.

Anyone get quotes from Cochise Motorsports or Sierra Cycles in Sierra Vista?

Still available?

Rec'd. my tag Mar. 28.

Interesting that the OP is asking about a general purpose gunsmith (which used to be fairly plentiful) and did not get a single answer. At least not that I can see, which is for a gunsmith and not DIY work. I know folks are trying to be helpful, and I am sure he appreciates it, but not everyone wants to work on their gun or has tools, bench, etc. The truth is, the guys who used to be able to do general gun repairs, maintenance, modifications, etc. are gone. That's why I have almost quit buying guns. Big headache if a used gun needs something that really requires hand-fitting or any kind of precision machining, welding, silver soldering, match up front and read sight dimensions, D&T straight and true, do quality trigger work, etc. I think the $$ return is just not there, given the schooling required, business license, lease or buy a shop full of tools, lathe, milling machine, drill press, manuals, contacts in the parts and accessories business, and a big one, liability insurance. Too bad. Real gunsmiths used to turn out some beautiful, quality work. Now we have everyone "building" their own rifles. Ha. Lots of bubba'd. work on fine, classic guns that just makes you cringe, and sticking parts together on an AR of some sort, which then never gets shot past 75 yds., and never from an unsupported field position. Funny. Last guy I knew who had real ability, was fast and reasonably priced, got recruited by one or more gov't. agencies (he also knew how to work on full-auto and milspec. gear) so now he fixes stuff for who knows, FBI, DHS, CIA, no way of knowing be he's been gone from the civilian market for years.

Hey CWT amigos! An E-mail from Cochise Gun Club/Sierra Vista Shooting Range follows. Here is a chance to step up and run for office and help lead the local shooting range in a positive direction. If you have some people skills, want to contribute to the community, want to help the shooting sports, and especially if you want to guide and mentor young and/or new shooters, this may be an opportunity worth checking out. Well, it is that time of year again for annual Board Elections. The person on the Nominating committee to contact is David Young at 520-366-0626 or his email at dypy358@gmail.com. The positions that are currently open: President Vice President Secretary Now, Steve Manigault has already thrown his hat in the ring for President. Debin Mc Inroy has also thrown her hat in the ring for Secretary. Voting will be in May. Please let David Young know if you are interested in stepping up on behalf of the Club continuance. Make sure you come to the meeting on Wednesday, May 11th at 7:00 pm at the VFW in Sierra Vista. See you there, Debi Mc Inroy Secretary, Pro Tem Membership Chair d2ford50@gmail.com 602-550-1465

You might google asbestos, naturally occurring, before you carry it around. The major ACMs in nature I believe are amosite, chrysotile and tremolite. Spelling rough, but you get the idea.

You better believe it!

I was referring to high B.C. bullets vs. standard bullets (or maybe I did not make that clear). Your example of a 180 gr. vs. a 150 gr. demonstrates ballistic efficiency very clearly. But a better example would be two bullets of the same caliber and weight, one a standard flat-base design, and one a streamlined high B.C. boattail. That's where the difference would become noticeable at longer ranges. I completely agree though, out to 500 or so yards, velocity is the main consideration. Curious as to criteria for required velocity to make a clean kill. I have heard minimum K.E. of say, 1,000 ft. lbs., but generally only hear minimum velocity recommended for bullet expansion. in the old days, this was illustrated using a standard cup and core bullet as being adequate for something like a .300 Savage, but a controlled expanding bullet being needed for a magnum caliber. Then Berger bullets (and some others) came along, and the claim was made that they were great performers because they just needed to get inside the hide and then would fragment, causing a massive would channel and quick kill. If that is true, and it might be, then wouldn't it also mean you would be picking chunks of jacket and core out of your meat? I have never understood how that is better than something like a Nosler Partition or Barnes TSX that blows through in more or less one piece but at greater diameter.

Previous year's issued tags. Look at the NV regs. That is the basis for # of tags for the following year.

They could use the previous years total as a starting point, just like NV does. Each year, they could base the allowable NR amount on the previous year's resident total. As I read it, 10% will not be a quota but a NTE amount, just like bull elk, etc.

I don't know but suspect you're right. It does appear the dept. plans to cap NR OTC at 10%. Not sure what the final version will look like, and maybe I am not reading it right, but something is happening.

PHOENIX — The Arizona Game and Fish Department’s proposed recommendations for deer, turkey, javelina, bighorn sheep, bison, bear, mountain lion, population management, and limited-entry permit-tag hunts for fall 2022 and spring 2023 are available for review at www.azgfd.gov/huntguidelines. The hunt structures and recommendations were formulated based on the hunt guidelines approved April 1 by the Arizona Game and Fish Commission. All questions or comments about a particular game management unit or hunt can be emailed to AZHuntGuidelines@azgfd.gov. The public also is invited to call any of the department’s regional offices statewide and ask to speak with a game management biologist. No formal presentations are planned. The proposed hunt recommendations will be presented to the commission for its consideration during a public meeting April 15 at department headquarters in Phoenix. The agenda will be posted at www.azgfd.gov/commission. To learn more about the hunt recommendations and hunt guidelines processes, visit www.azgfd.gov/huntguidelines.

Amber Muniq did a good job explaining, and answered most of these questions, at yesterday's AGFD Commissioner's meeting. I think the biologists are doing a pretty good job trying to thread the needle with both known and unknown data, and the 800# gorilla, long-term mega drought. Not sure if you can go back and still watch the video but they should have the minutes available within a few days.

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This is basically true, but only at distances further than most of us could or should shoot at game i.e. past 1000 yds. The big advantage to high B.C. bullets is their streamlined shape allows them to maintain velocity better, so gravity doesn't have as much time to pull them back to earth. Also, since they maintain velocity longer, and don't go subsonic and start to wobble, they get through wind a lot better. https://appliedballisticsllc.com/ these guys are your friend if you are into long range shooting.

Kev, how much welding has he done already? Enough to know that he will like it? By the time I grad. from H.S. I had done oxy/acetylene, brazing, and arc welding in shop class, and some of the guys were doing MIG and TIG and learning some cool stuff. I have done very little welding since, but I supervised trades and crafts guys, which included some top notch mechanics and welders. I don't know exactly how they got their start, but it was years ago, and probably would not apply to conditions now. I do know one came from the Navy (can't remember if he was Hull Technician or Damage Controlman rating), and the other was from WY so possibly the oil industry. With respect to 2 semesters, welding is now so technical that 2 semesters will just scratch the surface. Hope he likes sitting in a classroom because there will be some math, metallurgy, physics, chemistry. I say this because I went to trade school before I went to college, and even back in the '70s we had those subjects taught to us. So like any education, it will be an investment in himself, and require a lot of sacrifice and $$. Hard to say what is the right choice. Some kids no doubt get their start at a local repair or mechanic shop, but to be really well-rounded, and at all competitive, I think a formal apprenticeship or military schools would be needed. Locally, the SSVEC or the generating station might have some opportunities - maybe Freeport - McMoran? Apache Powder? Southwest Gas? I would think getting into an apprenticeship with these companies would be very difficult, but some kids do succeed at it. Best of luck to him, sometimes getting from point A to point B is anything but a straight line. With the global energy issues looming on the horizon, I think I would look at petro-chemical pipeline welding. That is a well-paid and stable field, at least it used to be, but they can pick and choose from pretty much any list of candidates.

Sent a note to kavika 1991. If he can break free, we will have 4. Still no word from Kev.

I will plan on it.

This is notice of an upcoming meeting of the Sierra Vista Shooting Range/Cochise Gun Club next month. You guys in E. Tucson, this is your range too!!! So feel free to get involved and become familiar with what changes are needed to make this into a viable shooting range and gather info so you can be prepared to challenge some of the backward and anti-gun policies of AZGFD that are hampering full use and enjoyment of this and probably all public ranges in AZ. This is just a reminder that the Cochise Gun Club Meeting will occur on Wednesday, April 13. 2022 at 7:00 at the VFW in Sierra Vista. We encourage you to attend to see what your club is doing for you at the Range and what you can do for the Club at the Range. It is important that we have as many attendees as possible so that we can make this the best club and Range as possible. Only with our membership will this occur. Possible Discussion Topics: 1. Coalition Issues and Updates 2. Pizza Party Updates 3. New Business for the Club and Range 4. Upcoming Elections and who is running Bring your thoughts and ideas and lets make this the best year for the club and range. Thank you, Debi Mc Inroy Interim Secretary Membership Chair Cochise Gun Club

Don't forget, defensive pistol workshop this Sat. at the SVSR range #3 (to the left as you drive into the main range compound). Cost is $10. Arrive about 0830, tailgate safety and start up about 0900. All experience levels welcome. We usually wrap up around 1230. Easy drills, little or no move and shoot, or weak hand, or belly-crawling - just fun, informal trigger time. Come out and get reacquainted with your EDC, duty, hunting or plinking handguns. Semi-autos best, but could accommodate revolver shooters, as well as .22s. You will need sidearm, holster, 3 mags., mag. pouches, eye and ear protection, and about 150 rds. of practice ammo. The defensive pistol match will be at the same range April 2. This is also a fun shoot, a little more demanding however, so you will need to register on practicscore.com Do a search for matches, look for Cochise Defensive Pistol, April 2. You just set up a free account which you can use for any match in the U.S. Scores will be posted on practicscore.com after the match, but you don't need to log in to see them.

I didn't either. But just about any local place ok with me. IHOP on the list too John. Too bad. All good places to eat. We can always meet at Texas Roadhouse (roadkill heh heh). Easy to find, easy to get in and out of.

The topic refers to S.V. and Hereford, but all members interested in accessing and using the Sierra Vista - AZGFD shooting range are included. As some of you know, the Sierra Vista shooting range has been characterized by dissension and dysfunction for a number of years. Sierra Vista is a small town, and pretty soon the word gets around, and those of us who are shooters/competitiors/handloaders/predator callers figure out the challenging conditions (I am not talking about wind or mirage) when attempting to test a new load, zero a rifle, practice from field positions or etc. At the Sierra Vista range, you can expect mixed results on any given day. Given the limitations on safe places to shoot on public land, and the 100 mile drive to the Three Points range, the Sierra Vista range is the only game in town. There will be a meeting this coming Wednesday, March 9, at 7:00 p.m. at the VFW in Sierra Vista to provide input with respect to the future operation and management of the range. At issue is whether or not to combine the current fragmented organization (Cochise Gun Club, Sierra Vista Rod and Gun Club, and Montezuma Muzzleloaders) under the umbrella of the Sierra Vista R&G Club. All club members are invited to attend and provide input and opinions as to the future of public shooting in the local commuting area. If you like to hunt and shoot, and are not a shooting range member, maybe you should be! And this meeting could provide an opportunity to become one, and to educate yourself as to how the shooting community might provide guidance to allow this struggling shooting range to move forward. If you have some time and energy and interest in promoting shooting sports and especially in passing on your knowledge to the next generation (or the current generation who may be new to shooting and firearms) please consider attending and sharing some of that experience and expertise.

All good. The SVSR needs folks like you! Just don't expect to see many changes right out of the gate. They have been running it this way for a long time, and I honestly don't think they realize there are other ways to run a range that are just as safe, without imposing a draconian atmosphere and taking the fun out of everything. By the way, I believe the Douglas range also sponsors 2G, but my info is pretty dated. Howard M. is a master-class shooter and can fill in the gaps.