jim

If you can not afford it up front you can't afford it later either. Same sacrifices just backwards you have to pay for it one way or another.

My goof coosefan I read your post a few pages ago and didn't realize you qouted someone else that had said they forgot their liscense numbers. I was just trying to let you know you can request a photo copy of a paper application. I screwed up my wifes app a few years ago and swore up and down that I had not. She contacted the draw office and they sent us a copy of her app which I had screwed up on. Tranposed the wrong hunt numbers and she got a cow tag when all she wanted was bull choices.

I believe the bonus points started in 90 so it should be 16 yrs counting this draw and the other 2 points. It should equal 18 as max for next years draw. ( if I'm right about when they started)

The bonus points still mean exactly what they were prior to giving out the loyalty point. If everyone got 1 then the whole system just moved 1 point. However I know several people who had missed a year for 1 reason or other and did not get the point. That put some people ahead of others if they were tied before. It seems around here as guys get closer to max they all start putting in for the early rifle bull hunts so they take the max pool higher than available tags. AZ has what alot of people call fringe units. I think if a guy puts in the time, every unit in this state has the ability to put out huge bulls. I kinda like when everyone puts in for units 1,27,8,9 and 10 it leaves tags almost every year for the ones that hunt the sucky units. The move to archery bull in nov would have made for some excellant hunting if people wanted to actually hunt, but most people don't know how to hunt the bulls after they stop responding to calls or running around chasing cows. The big bulls do not leave the units, they just become less hunter friendly. And if you don't think I'm right about people not knowing how to hunt the bulls if their not talking look at hunter success during years when the elk are not that vocal during the rut. I am not trying to stir the pot either this is just my most humble opionon on how the nov hunt would have increased hunter opputunity.

coosefan you can request a copy of your application and they will mail it to you.

Congrats I hope you take a monster after waiting that long.

Big browns and I drew unit 22 south archery bull in november. The game is on.

This years brown so far for me and my son.

2 more my boy found today 1 fresh and 1 year old

We filled 3 out of 6 tags so far. We have heard alot of birds but only sunday did we get them to actually come in. I am hoping they will get better now that some of the opening weekend pressure is off.

I was wondering when the whitetails should drop. I found a ridge that doesn't appear to get searched as we found 20 old drops in 1 day( during december bowhunt ) . I would like to go back when they are fresh brown.