Big Tub

So did anybody ever claim the arrows?

Most of the interpretation of laws is under "what a reasonable person would interpret the law to be" at least in all the cases I've been involved in. Just my 1/2 cent worth. In my experience the interpretation of laws is pretty much up to the officer that has his ticket book out ... G&F have been very consistent with "NO" on this interpretation of only 1 permit-tag except if there are multiple draws. As I mentioned on some of the other outdoor sites: it is a good time to move on getting this changed -- the commission is welcoming lots of new rules right now.

Billy G the vet on here? His wife Karen loves to collect skulls and would know.

Is that Mark Bool the same one that had the desert sheep several years ago? If so, I used to work with him. Who is he paying off? 22 points and counting. I also see Stu Handcock on there. Congrats to him. Sure are lots of stories represented here that I would like to hear. And speaking of stories: 28 and 20 days of hunting in 12/13 with no harvest, there has to be some stories there!

We have 2 of the 2000's. They are awesome, quiet, and reliable. I doubt you will find them used. I bought mine used from a guy selling a trailer my bro-in-law bought. I didn't save all that much. I found out afterwards that I could get them at the local Honda shop (Musselman's) just as cheap as the internet. But I got all kinds of instruction there: Like don't leave the gas in it and how to start it. If you don't need the quiet or light weight, that deal above is a smoking deal! I like the 2000's because you can lift them without breaking your back.

I hear they don't quite know what to do if you chase them. Get the video camera out and see if you can swat one on the rump?

Check out who has been doing the Governor's tags. I can't remember the one guy but the other I think was Chris Harlow. Let us know if this is correct. BTW: you can't be talking this kind of smack unless you have max bonus points. I do and have been waiting 30 years!

whatever gets your rocks off.

If you didn't get license numbers and turn them in, shame on you -- it's just piss'in and moaning.

Does that include lodging and food? What does one have to do to cross the border with the guns and then back across with the bird?

So are black tail protected and does anybody else eat deer fat?

I just watched that and had some questions: 1. What kind of rattler did he kill: I'd be a little nervous about some of those mountains species, especially on film when an ID mistake could cost you lots of money. 2. Putting deer fat around the heart to cook it???? I've always been told that deer fat is putrid and to cut it all out. Can't say I have ever tried it?

K9: Bob does put on a good lunch out there!

After reading through this post, I wonder if it is meant to come across that you are less of a sportsman if you do not process your own game? I have had good service with Jon at WPG II.

You may want to try some of the fancy stock gunsmiths. I picked up a synthetic for $20 years ago. They love the adl's and put the fancy thumbholes on them (Lawson's in Tucson).

It could be a Bill Engvall momment: "RUN DEER RUN"?

It was available for the turkey. Didn't help me draw, though?

so what did you do?

For fatty meats, low and slow is the way to go -- like in a smoker. But it leaves the outside just plain ugly so you need to finish it off (or start it off )really HOT. America's Test Kitchen used to do the hot first and now goes with the hot last to produce an evenly medium rare condition throughout the thickness of the meat -- no nasty thick gray layer near the outside. We started doing doing steaks in our smoker for about 1/2 hr up to 100F internal temperature and then sear them on our really hot grill for 3 minutes, turning every 45 seconds to get nice, hatched grill marks. I would think a procedure similiar would work well on the fancy roasts. HOWEVER, it took quite a few trials to perfect the technique and man, that can be expensive experimenting on a prime rib!?

.270 beacause Jack O'Connor said so.

I was told that hunters in this unit were blocking roads to eliminate others. Any comment?

BTW: all the deer I was watching merely stood still and looked towards the moving vehicles -- did not spook. Now if the guys got out of the vehicles, that is a different story! Let them drive through. But to go in on a dead end road when you pass two parked vehicles? That may be justifiable homicide!

I agree with Amanda that I would not have been out their waving my arms and essentially drawing their fire. They are looking for movement in their scope just after shooting at a deer. You are lucky you didn't get shot. I'm not sure they broke any laws (by pointing a rifle) as I don't think they knew you were there. 2-track is not a road. What they did was stupid and unethical for sure. I had an experience in 32 where this guy (maybe on this site), a self-proclaimed 1000 RD shooter, unloaded 2 rifles from the back of his truck off the top of the cab (in front of his kids), which is illegal. He wounded a huge mule deer and lost it. We saw it several days later at dawn but couldn't close the deal. Their whole party routinely road hunts which we observed again this year but that is hard to prove. He wasted our tax dollars with 3 trips to court and then plead out for a measly $462 with no loss of privileges. We encountered the guys again this year when they ran a nice buck to wards me but gave up the chase, maybe because they saw me or knew I was there or they didn't know which way to go. We blew the stalk, anyway. I must prefer to inherently be a nonconsumptive wildlife user. They did take a buck on the last day of the hunt 5 minutes after driving out of camp in an open jeep/thing. I cound not see them shoot this time or they would be in court again but you judge for yourself if they were road hunting. I certainly understand your frustration.

I call Chris every year and ask where to put in: this year it was 37B. He had a huge one found in there. Congrats to your Dad. Max bonus pts and counting for me!

I wanted to see Amanda release that lion! I did have a "Javi walk within 8 ft of me. I was seated and pouting in the rain. It did one litte woof, walked down the hill and started feeding. I accidentally launched an arrow up into the air trying to clear my sweatshirt out of the way. Really humbling and I never found the arrow and went back 3 times. I did take a pig in the same area days later.