Big Tub

For me, it is ruled out.

Like over 10X

I wonder if it will tell you "Hey idiot, that is too long a shot!"

I tried that on the only ticket for speeding (5-10 mi/hr over) as an adult and lost but then again it was $15 but it ruined by perfect record. The law system is a closed shop which could help explain why occupy is not defined in Title 17 and has an entirely different meaning that Webster's. I detest lawyers.

Check the NADA values and they do list motors separately. When there were boat dealers in Tucson, they would always have old motors for sale. I do have a used 4-stroke Evinrude 6 hp and a 2-stroke 5hp Johnson for a long shaft that you may want to consider.

So has anyone fessed up to getting drawn for Unit 28 for Desert Sheep this year?

Doesn’t matter if the barn was occupied (vacant) or not.....it’s still a violation according to the statute and case law. ... book chapter and verse -- that is not what it says -- "occupied"

from Google of course: I doubt it would be anywhere near the max ... but the law is written by lawyers, for lawyers to employ more lawyers! In Arizona, there are 3 types of misdemeanor classifications, including: Class 1 misdemeanor- A class 1 misdemeanor is the most serious misdemeanor offense and is punishable by up to 6 months in jail, 3 years of probation (5 years maximum probation for DUI offenses) and a $2,500 fine plus surcharges. You may want to see a lawyer and go back and determine if the building was indeed occupied, used, lived in, or whatever. Perhaps it was vacant?

IKEA is a HORRID place!

You need to quote book, chapter and verse on this. There is no exposition within Title 17 or A.R.S. 17-309 as to the definition of occupied that I could find. The regs are where you find the explanation of the dwelling "should be considered occupied." Note the use of the word "should" which has great significance. I know in military specifications, should means "you ought to" but not that "you have to." For "have to" situations, the word used is "shall." I think you may have an out here. It may be worth your while to fight this one and go back and determine if that barn was occupied. If someone complained that you were shooting next to their house, you are hosed. But if the Wildlife Manager just happened to catch you near a barn, as Lance pointed out, that if the barn was not occupied, there was no violation. What a pain to prove that. It undoubtedly would be easier to pay the fine and "let us learn from this." Is it worth the hassle? That is for you to decide. However, it is a kick to see how so many folks add to the actual written law and make it worse than it really is.

"Occupied means being used, it may not mean that someone was actually there." Not sure that is a legal definition but it is good practice.

Mexican Gray's??

What was the reasoning behind not having quail open at the same time?

CONGRATS! You'd think the young guys would be more tech savvy with the correct orientation of pics? Perhaps Tyler has become one of the old guys now!? Quite a bull. I hear from my friend that has a muzzy hunt that it is still tough this year with inactivity.

Save yourself some trouble and don't post the name. I did that once and wow did I hear about it. Lots of loyal customers for just about every taxidermist. However, I did find out about several individuals that got hosed later on and I got to tell them "TOLD YOU SO!" PM individuals if you want to.

I agree with the others. If he practices and shoots only at a distance where he keeps the groups in an 8" diameter and meets the legal minimums withing the regulations, go for it. P.S. he has to have the discipline to take only good (broadside and not moving) shots.

Of course "whoremonger" went out of the dictionary before the turn of the century ... but I knew what it was.

I know I caused a great deal of whining a few years back on here when I said that if I wound an animal, my tag is punched. Many disagree.

Sportsmen's should have these in stock if you want to go look. Remarkably like my EU2000.

They have really drug their feet on getting this out. However, Apache-Sitgraves has been better than any of the other forests at working with the locals: ref the ATV groups up there and the Saffel Trail. Give your input -- it may help.

Why do we not have pics of this puppy???

C'mon Lance: the females won't mark in the house -- a huge plus!

I did have a friend who did not realize how difficult a puppy can be and returned the dog to the breeder after a week. Most breeders I know request that if you need to give up the dog, that they get first dibs.

He's lucky that bull did not try to mount him!

I got a game cart, used (got no idea on brand) a few years ago and had the opportunity to use it a couple of more times. It is of very limited utility due to non-flat ground or rocks interfering. I did get to use it near Willcox in the modest foothills -- the trek was down-hill and quite gentle with almost no rocks or vegetation and it worked great. I could see where you could use it on many forest roads also but that is about it. Let me suggest a meat pack and learn how to quarter the animals using the gutless method.