richardoutwest

Fair enough archeryhuntingnut, it is not about me and you, we both will wait till both sides of the story are told. Just keeping it real!

archeryhuntingnut, nobody asked anything about coueswhitail on the other forum. You put 2 and 2 together based on a Bowtech sticker in a back window. Really

I am not on here to defend my friend, he can defend himself. All I am asking, is that we wait for the other side of the story. It's not just this instance but anybody that finds themselves in this type of situation. We should not string anyone up until both sides have posted 1st hand. The other hunter is still hunting, you wait sometimes 15 years for this tag and I really think this is his priority. This forum and accusations can wait till after the hunt. I posted up because I do not care for people who forum jump and bring their trash to a respectable forum based on second hand info. He states that he does not know the parties and is not caelkhnter from monsteermulys. That is impossible, either he is caelkhnter who started the mess over their or he does know one of the hunting parties. Who goes onto a forum and their first post starts slinging mud unless they have an objective. Everyone else I have ever seen will ease into a forum and introduce themselves.

archeryhuntingnut, you said: “I am not that familiar with that other site” / “I am not familiar with any of the parties” / “I am just a hunter who finds this issue interesting and the exchange of opinions on the issue says alot about our hunting community”/ “No I am not this fellow hunter you are referring to” Then how is it that you knew by post (no.1) what tjwkings meant? Nobody else did. He simply asked “Does anybody know who's licenses plate reads DBLUNG? They also have bowtech stickers on the front and back of a white chevy pick up.”? He does not mention anything about what was going on. Not one thing! Matter of fact, Monstermuleys forum does not mention anything about a white chevy truck with a licence plate that reads DBLUNG until post 45. on September 14, @ 2:42 p.m. Your very first post here on this forum was on September 14, @ 8:06 a.m. / 6 hours and 36 minutes before anybody else could possibly link the two being tied together from the two sites. So how is it if you are “not caelkhnter” who started this mess over on monstermuleys or “not familiar with the hunting parties” and “just a hunter who finds this issue interesting”, how is it that you knew this information 6 hours and 36 minutes before anybody else on the two forums just by reading them? Just don’t add up, not even if you used a time change! And to think I apologized to you and was giving you the benefit of the doubt! You said “I am not that familiar with that other site”, I will help you out, on the Monstermuleys forum, if you make an edit to a post, it will show the date and time the post was edited in red. I also have a copy saved to my computer.

My apologies, I could have swore your original post said I am not familiar with that other site, not I am not that familiar with that other site. Then you did not deny it for a couple of post. I voluntarily deleted my post, don't want any unfounded rumors. I did go back and look at Monstermuleys and compared it to what you wrote on this site, it does not look good for ya Bro!

I'll pass on the info to a few in the area. Hope it turns up for ya!

Really nice! Congrats to you also!

Great bull Doc! Think I met you in Kaibab, I could be wrong, none the less congrats!

What a TANK, congrats!

LOL / WOW, no he DID NOT recover the bull. IN FACT HE IS STILL HUNTING as of a couple of minutes ago! Who post this kind of stuff? Wish I would have read this before hanging up!

Let me start off with saying this is my first post also and I’m not going to post my resume just because I don’t have a BIG post count. Doesn’t mean I haven’t read this forum for years, Amanda has put together a great site! I usually don’t get involved in forums because of just this. elkaholic, don’t see you saying anything to the other guys with less than a dozen post counts so long as they agree with you. I’m not going to try to BS anyone, that’s why I joined this forum, not to defend the other party, he can do that himself (after he gets done hunting) but to try to see a fair trial is being done and not a lynching. We live in America where we have the right to a fair trial with all the facts from both sides. Some here seem to think we live in a third world country or something. Look out your window and you will be seeing the good old Red, White and Blue flying somewhere close to you. That’s part of what our founding fathers died for! I have no doubt that tjwking is an upright guy either Lark, don’t know the guy personally so I can’t say anything bad about him. I don’t necessarily agree with some of the things he has put on the WWW but that in no way means I hate the guy. I mean if I have a disagreement with someone, that disagreement is between that person and me. If I choose to post it on the WWW first hand (not 2nd) to tell my perception of what happened that’s fine. I personally would not post up detail description of the truck and plates for retaliation from others. Tjwking posted his side and now we should wait till the other hunter has posted before we make our conclusions. Look what happened with all the Bowtech stuff, people on here and the other forum has this guy as a staff shooter, factory rep or sponsored just because he has a Bowtech sticker in his back window. Like I said, I am going out and buying a Playboy Bunny for my back window and all the chicks will think I’m Hugh Hefner. I will have three chicks half my age, a T.V. show with all the drama we have here but have fun doing it! Does Bowtech deserve a bad rap like some here have also implied? What about the guy that gets his truck trashed just because he has a Bowtech sticker in his window and was 200 miles from what happened? All starting from people getting just one side of the story or a 2nd hand story on the WWW. Also look at what happened on the other site. The original poster, posted up 2nd hand info and later had to go back and change his story. To many times people hear something 2nd hand and they think its gospel, same could be said for hearing just one side. Both Outfitters involved here are upright as are their guides! Trust me when I say that neither Outfitter wants anything to do with this good or bad. Controversy is hard to sell, hunters who book hunts, wants a good hunt with the best opportunity to harvest a trophy, they are not paying for confrontations. Some here are under the impression that only the rich and famous book hunts for Boone and Crockett animals. Many hunters book hunts simply because they do not have the time to scout, they do not know the area that well or at all, not familiar with the species or new to the sport and want to learn. I sure hope if some of you go to court or on trial for something you may have not done, you get people that are open minded enough to hear your side before condemning you! After all, isn’t that what you would want?

Nice fill time Lark, guess we all need too pitch in a tale or two while we wait for the other side of the story, heck brother , that could be another week or so. I’m with Vowell, come on page 6! The other forum died. Me and old Pa was up in 1 few years back and the G&F jumped at given Pa a ticket fur shoot across a road n woundin a bull. Were forced ta road hunt cus of all them Outfitter posses were everywhere! The Game guy told Pa that he was watchin with one of them spottin scopes from his winder. Pa told the game guy he didn’t believe him and asked “how was I shootin, right or left handed’? The Game guy told Pa you were shootin right handed. Pa said, see yur lyin, Pa reached up and grabbed his glass eye out of his right eye socket, washed it off in his mouth and said see, yur lyin. The Game guy said your still gettin a ticket, that’s probably why you wounded that bull shootin out of a glass eye. So me and old Pa had ta get ta town to the Justis of the Peace. Pa stated his claim and took out him glass eye again and washed it around in his mouth and popped it in his cheek and asked hermajestic if she really thunk he could shoot right handed. Hermajestic dismissed all charges and told Pa to get his eye out of his mouth, she was disgusted with the whole story. Pa beat the rap, but if it weren’t for that low life Game guy holdin us up, we could have recovered the bull Pa shot. Funny thing is, Pa always shot right handed with his left eye with his semi auto 30-06, heck brothers, that’s how he lost his eye in the first place. Moral of the story; things are not always as they appear and the Game warden knew it.