Rembrant

Wouldn't it be cool to someday know just how everything was formed and changed over the eons of earth time? Instead of having to wade through the mud bogs of scientific theory? I was watching a show on PBS, a while back, about a paleontologist working in the Agobe (sp?) Desert. He had found an area that was rich in fossilized bones. Mostly of dinosaurs and other reptiles from a certain period in the mapped-out evolution of the earth. Funny thing was, at that site, there were also mammal bones. These were not supposed to be there. So, since the mammal bones didn't fit the evolutionary map, this scientist used a term for it, and I can't remember what that term was, but it was something like the word anomale (sp?), meaning it didn't make any sense, and they would just have to figgure it out later. Facinating how when the evidence doesn't fit the precious theory, it is simply ignored. I have an scientist friend, that I had arranged a meeting with, to discuss the possibility of doing some illustrations for him. He said he had a need for some drawings that would visually communicate his own theory of how the Grand Canyon was formed. I started to tell him that I had seen a theory explained on a TV program where it was believed that the area of the G.C. was an ancient sea bed and that the geology under the sea gave way, kinda like a sink hole, and it caved in, and caved in, and also was helped with the river running through it. He suddenly became visibly upset and blurted out that this theory sounded alot like a CREATIONIST idea. And that they totally ignore the fossils, WHAT ABOUT THE FOSSILS?!!! I reassured him that it was a secular show I had watched, and that it kinda made sense to me. He became so frustrated, within a matter of a couple of minutes, that he left my house upset, and I have not heard from him since! (you may find this hard to believe, but I never said one word about God to him.) Now check me if I'm wrong; isn't the top layer of rock at the G.C. limestone? Isn't limestone formed at the bottom of a sea? Guess that didn't fit his theory. Ignore button. Actually, panic button. Later I realized my wife had hung a religious Christmas decoration on my studio wall - maybe that's what scared him? Pretty bizarre behavior for an educated person. Someone had their head burried in the sand, and it wasn't the Christian. Anyway, I have a lot of questions for God, because I want to know what really happened from the time the earth was formed until now. Mike Where you been Lark? Don't just sit there, write something controversial!

Good fur = Dec/Jan. They start rubbing (breeding) in Feb. and the females coats are marred. Shoot 'em any time you like. Heck, the oldtimers could'nt even poison 'em out. Mike

One thing I noticed a while back is that all my ancestors, but one, are dead. Only my Mom is left, and she is in and out of Hospice. I'm in my 50's, so I probably have about 25 years left myself. We're all gonna die, it's just a matter of when. And what's 70 or 80 years any way? Nothin! compared to the eons this earth has been around. So what's the big deal if the earth is warming or cooling; if man is causing it or not? We ain't gonna be around to see it. I see what Lark's point is; he is also saying "so what?" He just don't like the chicken littles in the world profiting from it. I'll tell you who is the most upset about the warming of the globe; it's the godless people. These folks tend to be the koolaid drinkers. They believe in a humanistic utopia where humans figure out all of the problems of the world and allow humanity to continue forever, and ever and ever (even though they will not be around to see it). They believe in a one-world goverment. Remember John Lennon's "Imagine"? They heard that song and believed it! Humanists believe in freedom of a womans choice (to kill their own offspring), and the doing away of old people when they are a burden to society (Kavorkian). They believe we have evolved enough to streamline the problems of humanity and the needed resources to keep human kind going forever by our own power. (by the way, 42 million babies have been aborted in this country; more deaths than all the American wars combined) They're wrong. We aren't evolving. We have been the same since the beginning. anybody looked at human history lately? Ain't pretty is it? Kind of a lot of wars ain't there? That's who we are folks. That's what humanity is, and what humanity does. The Bible is full of wars and bloodshed, and after Biblical times it only continued and even got worse; Napolian, Rome, WWI, WWII, and on and on. Guess what... we ain't evolving. That's only what the liberal, progressive, demasculinized, socialistic, 'imaginers' want everyone to believe. If we can do it ourselves, then we don't need God. I read the book. It doesn't end in a humanistic utopia where the human race figures it out and goes on and on. Look around. Does it look like we're getting it figured out? Does it look like we can go on and on and on...? It ends with an all powerful God stopping humainty from destroying itself, and then creating "a new heaven and a new earth". Come on thinkers, pull your head out. Take a good, hard, long look. What makes sense? Who you gonna believe, John Lennon? Al Gore? or the Holy Bible? Global warming? So what! "The fields are ripe with harvest." Mike

Uh, I mean FROM a trout INTO a bass. Guess it could happen either way given enough time. Mike

He caught WALTER! Looks like WALTER evolved into a trout. Things like that happen over time. Mike

Saw a show on TV recently with a geologist feller saying that at the south end of the Coconino plateau, where it breaks off as the Mogollon Rim, used to be very large mountains, like some 12000 elev. He said the continent from that point sort of broke off and stretched back towards southern California and all the big mountains broke apart and fell down (would kinda explain the tilted Mescals). The stretched out part is the sonoran and mohave deserts and the un-stretched land still remains as it was and consists of the Coconino plateau and all the plateau land into New Mexico, Utah, Colorado and beyond. Scientific theory, of course, but it works for me. Mike

Loose-lipped head shake, hard blink (3 times), and a deep DEEP sigh. Now I gotta shake it off real hard, starting in my shoulders and down through my finger tips. That was the weirdest post I've ever read on this site. To heck with drugs!! Bust 'em... NOW! Mike

Amanda showed it to me as well, and I want one. Red Rabbitt's idea to have a non-typical to even out a set is a good idea. Way cool. Mike

I also pray for these brave men's safety, every day, every time I think of them throughout the day, and I think of them a lot. My third son is in Afganistan. I meet with his wife for lunch on a regular basis. she was asking me if continual prayer is effective when God knows the beginning and the end of all things, if fate is already decided, and what if our selfish prayers may be against what God's will is. She wonders, if God knows what we want/need the first time we ask, are we bothering Him by continually asking for the same thing? These are the kinds of questions that a person under pressure asks. This is a person pressing into the core of her very being and into her relationship with God because of the love for her husband. For anyone who may want to, read: Luke 11: 5-9 Luke 18: 1-3 John 14: 13-14 2 Corinthians 7: 9-10 I like the "Message" version alot. I don't know why a God that created all things would give boneheads like me the time of day, but He seems to want to talk with us alot. May God bless all those wonderful brave men! Mike

Two things here: #1. The mag is a great idea. Local hunting stories and pics. Beautiful. I'm still dissapointed that clay Goldman's "Arizona Hunting Tales" folded. This mag will be just what the doctor ordered for a lot, and I mean a lot, of Arizona sportsman. including me. Again, sign me up! #2. The guide/information thing. It is expected that hunters will just outright lie about their hunting spots, because they don't want other people in there crowding them, and worst yet, because of their own big mouth. I expect this from every respectable hunter, and I don't even ask. I have chosen to tell people straight up that I will not not reveal my own spots. that way I'm not being a big-mouth and I am also not lying. Yes, this sight is bad for that, a lot of times we just get carried away with trying to impress - the internet is bad for that. But the more mature folks here offer reminders to other people when needed. If this new mag can steer people around in the woods - "a little help" - and and not take away from the quality we have enjoyed, then more power to them. Personally I am skeptical about that. But I can't control or stop that. People will use this service and it will be successful. I have never hired a guide. Have I taken advice? Of course, we all have. The real satisfaction in hunting for me is to do my homework, that is fieldwork, busting my butt in doing so, because being out there for all those hours in the field is even better than killing something. It wears on the common guy like me when people that don't do the work end up where I hunt because of someone's mouth or they paid for the information. Not all these guys are lazy, they're busy, and God bless 'em, I'm glad they can get out of the city and connect with the land. Again, nothing I can do about it, but stretch out further and have more fun doing so. These are growing pains. Dissapointments of simply having too many people in the state these days. Nothing against free interprise and nothing against what promises to be a really cool magazine. Mike

Tell me how to sign up - I'm in! Thanks Tony, I just gained a lot of insight. Mike

lionslayer (and coues and sheep) has a good point. We live in the information age and we can get it at our finger tips, on the computer or in a magazine. Easy info on where to hunt has made for more pressure in the woods. The game dept hasn't helped with the "more opportunity", but lot's of guys that don't know the woods and haven't done the scouting have found themselves in some of the best places because they paid for the guide, or information. Nothing wrong with free interprise, yet when we sell hunting spots, it feels to me that we are selling something almost sacred - that you can't get back. If a guy can sell "a little help" and not shoot everyone in the foot then, good. What if 40 people want "a little help" with a spring turkey hunt in unit 6A? You are either stepping on toes, or selling a product that may not be worth the money. Just some thoughts. I am not against the mag. I am not against guides. I just think about the few old timer guides that could scratch out a living back in the day when nobody hardly noticed, versus the modern multitude of guides that end up everywhere I go in elk country over-calling and claiming tanks for their clients. If everybody wants a wilderness experience then it's not a wilderness experience anymore. And that's where we're at these days. Sell your mag, I hope you do well. Sell our info, I'm sure we'll see your clients in the woods. Mike

Lark, You stole that line from Beavis and Butthead, talking about math. I just didn't have you figured as a Beavis and Butthead fan. This changes everything. Mike

tjhunt2, Give me an address to send the $40 bucks to. That's the greatest idea I've heard of in a long time! Mike

Kinda like coffee; one day it's bad for you, the next day it's good for you. This goes for alcohol, eggs, vitamin E, global warming, and you name it. You are correct, Lark. These are "educated" people justifying their existance. Ever talk to old timers who talk about their parents who lived to be 80 - 90 years old after eating their own hand churned butter and drank whole milk from their own cow and fried the meat they ate? - every day for all those years?! And now that people have figured out that processed food in general really is bad for you, there is an organic alternative. Great idea, but guess what? It's expensive! (keep in mind the old-timer's parents grew their own stuff on their own land. How many people do that now?) It's all about the money. Always has been The global warming thing is in the same, 'justifying their own existance' catagory, yet it's even bigger. It's tied into the liberal/green thing - a great movement in this country, and all you have to do to join is leave your common sense at the door. Mike

Most Biologists and animal activists (biologists because this is what they were taught in school, and animal activists because they watch too much Disney and think animals are more important than people) believe the theory of evolution is not a theory, but a law. Kind of odd that these people want to save everything from the brink of extinction when one of the major concepts of Darwin's theory is 'natural selection'. Natural selection is the idea that if an animal cannot adapt to a changing environment or increased competition, it will cease to exist and give way to the stronger, more adaptable (evolving) species. According to this belief system, it is natural evolution; natural selection; and natural biology for lots of species to go away because they just can't hang with the pressure. So why do people who embrace Darwin's theory choose to work against it? Do these folks feel bad because alot of this pressure is human caused? Isn't that putting ourselves above the theory and separating us from the animals? How does that work, if from the animals is where we came? Don't quite add up, does it? Here's something that does make sense: we are separate from the animals. They are here for us to utilize, and yes, to steward... You put us in charge of everything you made, giving us authority over all things; the sheep and the cattle and all the wild animals, the birds in the sky, the fish in the sea, and everything that swims the ocean currents. O Lord, our Lord, the majesty of your name fills the earth! Psalm 8: 6-9 NLT

Oh I could Lark, I could, but there ain't enough room on a deer huntin site to get into it. I attached the evolution topic to your views about global warming because they are similar in that powerful people call it science and truth when they are niether. mike

Wish I could spell. Mike

Desertbull, Bingo! It's is a lot easier to accept the worldview that we came from and will go back to nothing. That way we don't have to accountable for our actions. Silly thing is, sex, drugs/alcohol, stealing stuff and lying just ain't worth it if we're wrong about this random development thing. And besides that, God knew from the start that we could never be perfect, so He gave us a way out. All we gotta do is give up our pride and accept the Great Sacrifice. Funny how people will not even consider, in fact run, from the way out and replace it with bad science. Where's the hope in that? Dang Lark, I thought I would dazzle you with my Harley smarts. Thought it made a pretty good analogy tho. My wife wouldn't appreciate me having any more girl friends, and being sober is the best high I ever had!! Thinking is fun! And I can red stuff now too. Sometimes I can even comprehend it. Mike

Great example!!!! Over time that Harley motor got better. But wait a minute...The modifications in the Harley motor over time; knuckle head, pan head, shovel head, evo; rubber mounts, gaskets, etc. didn't ever change it from being a twin cylinder Harley motor. A Harley motor is still a Harley motor. You can always spot one and discern it from the wanna be's. The only changes that took place over time were modifications (adaptations) to improve the performance. The DNA of the Harley motor did not change. It did not turn into a Honda or a Yamaha, or an airplane or a boat. And it didn't just happen over time by random mutation. Motors are of a complex design, and they require a designer to make these changes. Now, compare the obvious complexity of a Harley motor to the complexity of a living organism, say for example a human body. Ziiikes!!! Gerald Schroder stated in his book, "The Science of God", "The statistical imposibilities of life forming out of the basic elements by random mutations is like a tornado plowing through a junk yard, and the end result being a perfectly manufactured Boeing 747 jet liner." Darwins theory was a pretty fantastic idea in the mid 1800's. But in the light of the knowledge of todays microbiology, he looks like a simpelton. So what is the driving force behind this persisting theory? Clue: in ain't entirely money. Mike

Lark, What you are witnissing is as natural as global warming. It's called evolution. That's where one animal turns into another because time went by. Oh yeah, and the climate change thing has something to do with it. Mike

I like your attitude Couesdiehard. Mike

Good point, Lark. Heck, if the Dems would give up the idea of electing a liberal/gimmic and put forth a moderate with experience and common sense, I might even consider voting for him this year. I still say Obama looks good because he is a mystery. I hope we don't hafta get to know him. Mike

The reason Obama has done so well is because he is an unknown - a blank slate. People look at him and see what they what to see, or a reflection of there own best virtues. The more he opens his mouth and the more this country finds out about him, like his association with "Reverend Wrong", the more that idealistic image of him will dissapate. Hopefully this country can drop this infactuation and come to our senses before we elect what I think is a dangerous man as president. His association with the Reverend looks to me to be an association with political power, beginning in Illinois and solidifying the black vote throughout the nation. It got him a strong start, but now it's biting him on the butt. A Christian perspective: The apostle Paul wrote to the first century church and warned that they were already preaching a different gospel than the original message - Christ crucified! Jesus didn't come to save the Jews from their political turmoil, or anybody else at any time in history. Jesus came to save all of humanity from eternal separation from God. To preach anything else is not the gospel of Jesus Christ. The "liberation gospel" of Reverend Wrong is not Christianity, it is political power, and politically motivated. And then to associate with Farrakan adds more evidence to this fact. Weird and scary. We are living in desperate times. Mike

Lark, Your passion for not liking being lied to about global warming matches my passion for not liking being lied to about evolution. Ain't it just absolutly amazing how people with a certain world view will put a slant, or a spin, or just flat out kram a square peg into a round hole to make it fit what they think is the truth? Mike