Redman & Coues79, thanks for the replies and not being snotty about me asking for help. I knew when i posted this topic i would get some flack for it. Usually wouldnt have asked but hunting out here is a whole different ball game than midwest hunting. I hold the highest respect to the hunters out here. Ive been reading this forum for over a year and just recently decided to join up. I have checked out the game and fish unit reports, and i have been out in the field a couple of times. plan on being out quite a bit more before my hunt. unfortunately dont have any buddies here in arizona that are into the whole hunting scene so i am going at it alone.