AZLance

anyone seeing bears in 35??

Thanks guys! We had over 200 people show up for the 9th bi-anual Arizona Hunters Who Care trash cleanup! The early estimates are that we picked up over 33,250 pounds of trash! And the sad thing is that most people said there was still tons more trash out there. If you didn't make it this year, you need to come check us out next year. Again, Special Thanks to Arizona Deer Association, Arizona Chapter SCI, and Sportsmans Wharehouse! These sponsors made this event happen. Thanks, Lance Altherr Arizona Hunters Who Care azhunterswhocare@hotmail.com This was the trash pile half way thru the event, it trippled by end of day... G&F trailer full of trash... Long line for Lunch provided by ADA, and cooked by SCI's Shane Some trucks left full of trash... Best find, a old VW bug...

Units 36A, B& C. BASE CAMP HAS MOVED TO THE ARIVACA ROAD! WHEN: Saturday, March 3, 2007, 7:00 AM start. Lunch will be at Base camp from 11am-1pm. Please let us know if you will be out so we can provide enough food. WHO: Hunters Who Care Volunteers and any other dedicated outdoorsman who want to clean up our desert. WHAT: Our goal for this clean up is to pick up trash on 3 ranches in Game Management Units 36A, B & C: the Marley Ranch, the Rancho Seco, and the Sopori Ranch (off of Chavez Siding). However, we are not limited to those areas and volunteers can clean up wherever they like. WHERE: The Hunters Who Care Camp will be moving to the Batamote Road on the Marley Ranch. We chose this new Base Camp so that we can clean up new locations where we have found huge concentrations of trash. DIRECTIONS: Take 1-19 South to Arivaca Junction (Amado) and exit west. Take the Arivaca Road to Mile Post 17.6 and go right (Northwest) 8 tenths of a mile to the Camp. Trash Bags and Dumpsters will be available at the campsite. HOW: Volunteers are encouraged to look for trash anywhere they want. If anyone needs any additional accommodations, dumpsters or trailers in different areas, trash bags before the event, of if you are looking for a group to help please contact Gabriel Paz or Lance Altherr in advance. FOR MORE INFORMATION PLEASE CONTACT: Lance Altherr (Hunters Who Care) azhunterswhocare@hotmail.com Officer Gabriel Paz (AZGFD) 520-883-0487 or gpaz@azgfd.gov “Hunters Who Care” is a group of hunters, guides, sportsmen, hunting clubs, and various other groups who are tired of seeing the desert littered with trash. They have come together to clean up our desert and to help landowners who are overwhelmed with immigration problems.

anyone coming???

This typical shed scores 64 2/8" (official North American Shed antler Club) just found a couple of weeks ago by a friend.

and I forgot, he saw a huge buck right before he found the shed... didn't get a good luck as it slipped thru a cut... so, it might have been the buck...

yes it is from AZ, and no the other side has not been found. Although he did find the shed from the year before of that same side. It is like a 50" shed.

nice mass!

Here is another view...

Grong, Do you wear those sweet glasses in the tree stand?

It was on here a day ago, but when the site went down, it didn't come back up???? I will re-post...

Units 36A, B& C. BASE CAMP HAS MOVED TO THE ARIVACA ROAD! WHEN: Saturday, March 3, 2007, 7:00 AM start. Lunch will be at Base camp from 11am-1pm. Please let us know if you will be out so we can provide enough food. WHO: Hunters Who Care Volunteers and any other dedicated outdoorsman who want to clean up our desert. WHAT: Our goal for this clean up is to pick up trash on 3 ranches in Game Management Units 36A, B & C: the Marley Ranch, the Rancho Seco, and the Sopori Ranch (off of Chavez Siding). However, we are not limited to those areas and volunteers can clean up wherever they like. WHERE: The Hunters Who Care Camp will be moving to the Batamote Road on the Marley Ranch. We chose this new Base Camp so that we can clean up new locations where we have found huge concentrations of trash. DIRECTIONS: Take 1-19 South to Arivaca Junction (Amado) and exit west. Take the Arivaca Road to Mile Post 17.6 and go right (Northwest) 8 tenths of a mile to the Camp. Trash Bags and Dumpsters will be available at the campsite. HOW: Volunteers are encouraged to look for trash anywhere they want. If anyone needs any additional accommodations, dumpsters or trailers in different areas, trash bags before the event, of if you are looking for a group to help please contact Gabriel Paz or Lance Altherr in advance. FOR MORE INFORMATION PLEASE CONTACT: Lance Altherr (Hunters Who Care) azhunterswhocare@hotmail.com Officer Gabriel Paz (AZGFD) 520-883-0487 or gpaz@azgfd.gov “Hunters Who Care” is a group of hunters, guides, sportsmen, hunting clubs, and various other groups who are tired of seeing the desert littered with trash. They have come together to clean up our desert and to help landowners who are overwhelmed with immigration problems.

thats the problem, they are NOT carying "tiny 9mm's" They are are carrying AK-47's and AR-15's........

guys, that site is only one of many! I could take you to a dozen sites like that just in the 36 units... Lance

anyone coming??

Guys, its not getting any better. On the Kings Anvil Ranch in unit 36C, there are easliy 200+ illeglas coming thru a day. And in Unit 36A by the Caballo Loco RV park, there are even more coming thru. And this is 30+ miles from the border, and north of our National Guard and Border Patrol. This picture was taken by a hunter in 36A

Guys, I have a question. I have a friend who's family lives in Mexico. They own a big ranch something like 3000 hecteracres. They have several deer tags for their ranch. My friend has offered to take me down there and give me a tag. Not sure what I need (paperwork, ect...) to bring back the buck to the U.S. They have never let anyone hunt there before.

they actually have several tags, so I might auction the others off, JK....

Mexico is out of control!!!!!!! Nov. 29, 2006, 2:58PM 3 Americans abducted on hunting trip in Mexico By JAMES PINKERTON Copyright 2006 Houston Chronicle TOOLS Email Get section feed Print Subscribe NOW RESOURCES Hunting trip kidnapping Site of kidnapping HARLINGEN — Three U.S. citizens — including a prominent Laredo customs broker and a Sweetwater businessman — were kidnapped Sunday along with two others after going deer hunting in northern Mexico, U.S. authorities said Tuesday. A gang of armed men swept into the 6,500-acre Rancho La Barranca in the northern state of Coahuila Sunday evening and abducted the five, including customs broker Librado Piña Jr., 49; his son, Librado Piña III, 25; Sweetwater businessman David Mueller, 45; and two Mexicans — ranch cook Marco Ortiz and Monterrey resident Fidel Rodriguez Cerdan. Though details were sketchy Tuesday night, U.S. officials and relatives of the kidnapped men were stunned by the attack. ''We're pulling out all the stops," said one U.S. law enforcement agent, who asked not to be identified. ''We're going to go through the proper channels, but obviously we have back channels ... from years of experience trying to resolve these things." A Mexican investigator who spoke on condition of anonymity said the ranch was ransacked and such items as washing machines and beds were stolen, giving the case an unusual twist. "In a kidnapping, they aren't going to go about stealing objects," said the official. "It's an unusual situation." The abductions of Piña Jr., his son and Mueller bring this year's tally of Americans kidnapped in Mexico to 33. Of those, 14 Americans were kidnapped in the Nuevo Laredo area. No previous threats Piña family members said they suspected the kidnapping was financially motivated. "We absolutely cannot pinpoint the reason for this," a family member said. "We believe they saw a wealthy person with a big ranch house in Mexico and they went to see what they could steal." Family members said Piña Jr. had not been threatened. "If he had, he would have never gone to the ranch and put his life or the life of other people in danger," said another family member. Family members said they learned about the crime after two Mexican clients traveled to the ranch for a hunt, but found the house in shambles. The Piñas say they immediately contacted Mexican officials in Nuevo Laredo and Coahuila and met with the FBI that afternoon. Piña Jr. owns the ranch, which offers trophy whitetail-deer hunts and is located about a 30-minute drive northwest of the Colombia Bridge in Laredo. Santos Vasquez Estrada, the local head of the Coahuila state attorney general's office, said Piña Jr. may have been the main target of the attack. The U.S. law enforcement source who spoke on condition of anonymity said it does not appear that the abducted men had any connection to ongoing turf wars that have killed hundreds of people in Mexico this year. ''We don't, at this time, have any hard evidence that any of these people were involved in any illicit activity," the source said. Group was well-armed The five men were hunting at the ranch about 8 p.m. Sunday when the assailants arrived. ''A large group did take over the ranch, and they were well-armed," the source said. U.S. officials said Tuesday that no ransom requests had been made so far. ''Since the kidnapping occurred within the sovereign nation of Mexico, the FBI has initiated a Foreign Police Cooperation investigation," said a statement from D. True Brown, acting special agent in charge of the FBI's San Antonio division. La Barranca ranch is one of two owned by Piña Jr., a second-generation Laredo customs broker, industrialist and owner of the Corona beer distributorship. His abduction shocked members of the close-knit Texas Deer Association. ''Librado has been a director on our board for several years, and is a good active member," said president Scott W. Bugai, a veterinarian from Seguin. ''I've been down to his ranch in Laredo, and he's a super-nice guy," Bugai said. ''This is a shock. What's the world coming to?" Lane Laning, the deer association's treasurer, said Piña Jr. has worked hard to introduce game management to ranches in northern Mexico. ''Boy, I'm praying for him ... and for Mr. Mueller, too," said Laning, who manages the 5F Game Ranch outside of Sweetwater. ''It's sad Mexico is turning out like this." Employees of Mueller's company, Sweetwater Steel, were distraught. ''It's been a long day, a pretty rough day," said J.L. Goldsmith, a salesman at the company that sells steel for construction. San Antonio Express-News correspondent Sean Mattson and the Associated Press contributed to this report. james.pinkerton@chron.com http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/4366020.html

Read the article below and look at the highlighted portion in red... Come on guys pull your head out of the sand! The Mexican Government and Police are responsible for a good portion of the crime that goes on down there!!! I go down to Mexico at least 6 times a year, but I always keep one eye open! State Department warns of travel to Mexico border At least 27 Americans have been kidnapped in past 6 months Posted: 2:06 AM EST (0706 GMT) People cross from the U.S. into Mexico at the Paso del Norte border crossing in Juarez, Mexico. WASHINGTON (CNN) -- At least 27 Americans have been abducted along the border with Mexico in the past six months because of increased violence among drug traffickers, prompting the U.S. State Department to issue a warning to travelers. Of the 27, two were killed, 14 were released and 11 remain missing, State Department spokesman Richard Boucher said Thursday. The abductions do not include "express" kidnappings in which Americans are forced to withdraw large sums of money from ATMs before they are released, Boucher said. Boucher said he understood the Mexican government may not be happy with the travel warning, but "we do feel that it's important to tell Americans about the security situation near the border." "We have worked closely with Mexican authorities to take the appropriate steps to ensure the safety and the security of U.S. citizens in Mexico," Boucher said. "And in situations where Americans are victims of crime, we do follow those cases very closely as the Mexican authorities try to arrest and prosecute those who are responsible." Boucher emphasized that "a vast majority" of Mexicans and Americans crossing the border do so "without any mishaps or difficulties." In its public announcement released Wednesday, the State Department said "violent criminal activity along the U.S.-Mexico border has increased as a product of a war between criminal organizations struggling for control of the lucrative narcotics trade along the border." An underpaid and under-trained police force in Mexico and a weak judicial system add to the problems, according to the warning. "Criminals, armed with an impressive array of weapons, know there is little chance they will be caught and punished," according to the statement. "In some cases, assailants have been wearing full or partial police uniforms and have used vehicles that resemble police vehicles, indicating some elements of the police might be involved." The travel warning, which expires April 25, calls on Americans to avoid areas where illicit activity occurs, "visiting only legitimate business and tourism areas of border towns during daylight hours."

Yes, but in WI, the culprits were arrested! In Mexico the Government and Police are in on the kidnapping!

Dave, I have plenty of Americans that can landscape your yard. I refuse to hire anyone who is illegal. Sure sometimes it is tough to find good workers, by I follow the law, and soooner or later a American citizen fills the job.

Dave, I threw that F*@#ing thing in the trash! They called me about a few months later asking why I din't send it in. I told them to go to heck and hung up! That was almost a year ago. They haven't arrested me yet!

I have AZG&F stickers on all my trail cams! No one has stolen one since I put the stickers on...