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  1. Flatlander

    AZ Sucks

    Ahead of the deer and sheep draw I think we as AZ residents owe the NR community a PSA about conditions here. That the state is pitiful. The brush is all burnt up. The tanks are all dry. The wolves have eaten all the sheep. The deer are lion poop. The border is a mess. And it’s infested with rattlesnakes. I figured with the way algorithms and social media work if enough of us post the same Info it might fill up some feeds and hep make sure nobody wastes their points in a lousy state.
  2. Flatlander

    Unit 9 Early Rifle Bull

    Congrats and thanks for sharing. Cant wait to hear all about it.
  3. Flatlander

    AZ Sucks

    Anyone see the hunt recommendations? BIG cuts to most units. Unfortunately, may not be enough. Archery quotas are going to fill fast this year. It’s probably not worth buying a tag if you were hoping for a unit to be open in December / January. Only opportunity to use most those archery tags is in August. Why bother ensuring that to hunt a 120” deer in 110 degree heat when you could be in CO or UT chasing giants in 79 degrees.
  4. Flatlander

    Found a few sheds!

    Any modification will actually work. Crop, touch up, etc.
  5. Flatlander

    Brothers in Rams

    I nearly wrecked my truck on the way to work when I checked my credit card statement in June. It seemed impossible, but somehow lightning had struck, again, and someone in our family had a bighorn tag for the second year in a row. In 2024 my 15 yo son became the first member of our family to harvest a sheep. And now, just 6 months later, we were starting the adventure all over again. I talked to all my contacts from the previous year. Lined up conversations for advice on the various units we may have drawn and agonized over the thought of how we were going to make the dates work. And, I pondered THE decision. Six members of our family had applied, including my son who had the tag the year before. Everyone except for him had applied for the same two choices, 37B and the Kofa’s. The lucky bum had to apply for Rocky so I was juggling that unlikely scenario in the mix. But of everyone, I was the only one in the family with any significant amount of bonus points. Well below max, but still double what anyone else had. If it was my tag, one thought echoed in my mind. How cool would it be to take a ram with my other son. Two rams, with my two sons, approximately 350 days apart. From the moment the thought occurred to me, there was never any hesitation. It would be his. And we would do it together, his senior year, the last year he could receive a donated tag and before he left for mission and college opportunities. It would be a senior trip for the ages. And so it was. The results came and there next to my name it said DRAWN for the Kofa’s. I made some calls and drove to the unit that weekend. It was absurdly hot. And desolate. And remote. And 180 degrees the opposite direction from all of our other hunts for the year (everyone in the family had a different tag). So I called a few trusted resources and @trphyhntr recommended I speak with Zack Doster. I knew it would take 12+ days of scouting plus the hunt to figure things out and I just couldn’t pull it off this year. So I did something I have never done and hired a guide. Zack was incredible and kept us posted on his monthly trips and sent lots of pictures. Hunter and I focused on staying ready physically and with the gun. By the time we headed out for sheep we had been on 4 other hunts and done 3 pack outs. The week of the hunt we did a final check of the gun and worked on prepping. The weather looked like it was going to take a turn and we were prepped to backpack into the interior if needed. Thursday night Zack sent an Inreach message and said he had located a good ram just before dark. Game on. We arrived at camp after dark and my buddy Ty was waiting for us. We burned some excited energy chatting for a while before settling into cots for a quick sleep. First light we had the bowl the ram from the night before had been in surrounded. From 4 different vantages we searched every crack and crevice. Nada. We disembarked and headed to camp to patch a couple tires and throw our tent up. Hunter ate a sandwich and I made one for later. It wasn’t long before the hum of the compressor stopped indicating it was time to hit plan b. Zack and his guiding partner Bo along with my son Hunter and our buddy Ty all split up to cover a large basin where other sheep had been seen early in the week. It was a quick mile jog out to our first glass post. Zack spotted a ewe on a bare slope in the full sun. It was almost 90 degrees and I was shocked. Another quick jaunt had us posted on a knob with a 360 view. Zack left Hunter and I to cover the sunny basin while he climbed up to a spine ridge to look into the next canyon. Forty five minutes later the radio cracked and Zack was whispering. Three rams had fed out below him and had him pegged behind a lone Palo verde. He told us to work up the canyon to a saddle where he would meet us once they fed out of site. I had to wake Hunter from his afternoon nap, and when I said we had rams he sprung to his feet. We worked our way up to the saddle and met with Zack. Slowly we dropped packs and crept to the edge to relocate the sheep. First a ewe, then a young 5 yr old ram. Zack started to explain they may have fed over, but it was too shady and too lush in that cut. We kept creeping and peering down low into the cut. And then, a big mature sway back climbed out of a creosote. His horns were thick and broomed. His belly was potted and his legs looked short. Definitely a mature ram. With the spotting scope on him and his partner at 180 yds Zack could easily count the rings and he let Hunter take a good look. Hunter said “I would love to shoot either of those rams.” And then hesitated, “but I don’t want it to be over. It just started.” I smiled and said it was his choice, but also reminded him of the reality. This was one of the top 5 rams they had located in 15 days in the unit. It was forecasted to rain 1/2” the next day. And although we could come back a week later, he did have to go back to school on Monday. The bird in the hand proved more than he could argue with. He asked if it was as big as his brothers, I confirmed it was, and also older. And he said “Let’s kill that ram.” The ram kept looking up our way, he knew something was up, but he kept feeding our way. He was getting close enough that now I was nervous. By the time we were done sizing him up and making the decision, he had closed to 130 yds. I laid the rifle on the edge of the bluff and Hunter slid in behind. He was shaking so much he jammed the feed. I crawled up and fixed it. And he leveled the rifle. The old ram looked up from his feeding and stared a hole in us. Hunter had to turn the magnification down on the scope because he couldn’t see what he was aiming at. I saw his hand move from the cat’s tail, down to the grip, his finger moving first to the safety and then inside the trigger guard. At the click of the safety I nodded at Zack. The crack of the suppressed rifle hadn’t even clapped before the thump of the Berger meeting shoulder hit my ears. The ram took a few steps, nearly reuniting with his band mate, before raising up and tipping backwards, resting with his broomed tips pointed up in the very spot he had stood to feed. And there it was. Once in a lifetime. We hugged. We fist bumped. We cheered. We called mom and then grandpa. We thanked God. And as I followed his steps up to his trophy I quickly wiped away tears before he could see them. It wasn’t just a once in a lifetime moment for him. It was the culmination of so many moments. From carrying him on my shoulders when he was still in diapers, and giving him some old bush bell field glasses to practice “glassing”, tying a parachord around his Red Ryder to sling over his shoulder as we wandered wash after wash searching for javelina that were never there. It was a 10 yr old boy who had faced surgery after surgery, first learning to crawl and drag his half body cast, then to walk and then to run first track, then cross country, then a half marathon. It was boy who earned the right to be called a young man. His future still remained uncertain, but he had learned to live for today. For the moments that could never be taken. Tomorrow is promised to no man.
  6. Flatlander

    Found a few sheds!

    You have to save them to your phone / computer then rotate them and save it. Then you can go back in and un-rotate and save it again and it will show up properly.
  7. Flatlander

    AZ Sucks

    How is that lion still breathing?
  8. Flatlander

    Limited Opportunity

    Man what a write up! Congrats and thank you. That was a print worthy read.
  9. Flatlander

    4b early archery bull

    Wherever you can find the bugling, usually around water!
  10. Flatlander

    antelope and water

    All day long
  11. Flatlander

    Credit card hits

    Anyone's card get hit today?
  12. Flatlander

    Credit card hits

    I am really curious what impact, if any, the crossbow changes had on draw odds. If word got out, some of those high point holders may have moved to muzzleloader and late rifle tags as an alternative, knowing early rifle is out of reach. I know of one early muzzy tag that crept for sure.
  13. Flatlander

    Credit card hits

    Two licenses won’t stop you from getting drawn. As long as the license # on your app is valid that’s all that matters.
  14. Flatlander

    CVA accura Lr x .50 cal

    That’s a great deal.
  15. Flatlander

    Credit card hits

    I have to eat crow today. They were both random.
  16. Flatlander

    Credit card hits

    Are there any more non-resident OTC hunts left? Idaho is draw. CO is draw. Other than landowner tags I don’t think there is an OTC option. I guess maybe Rosie’s?
  17. Flatlander

    Credit card hits

    I just said nope because we got two charges today. 1 bonus, 1 random both charged at the same time.
  18. Flatlander

    Credit card hits

    Nope
  19. Flatlander

    Credit card hits

    Hoping we get the wife a tag this year! Wednesday can’t come soon enough.
  20. Flatlander

    Draw/scrolling down for unit

    The double entry and amount of potential error erodes my confidence in the whole system.
  21. Flatlander

    Draw

    Yeah you got bad intel. The customer service people at AZGFD are not law enforcement or policy setters. They are cashiers. Most of them don’t have any idea what the rules are and word of mouth policy runs rampant without any fact checking. You can apply for hunts for which you will be 10 on the start date. For the OP, your son can apply twice a year for javelina. The next opportunity will be in May for youth only hunts that occur in the fall. The next opportunity to apply will be in October for hunts that occur in Jan-March. He can apply for any hunt, but the youth only hunts have a few advantages. If you are new to hunting there are many great organizations that help mentor young and new hunters. You might consider connecting with one of them at a camp. https://www.azgfd.com/hunting/hunter-education-events/
  22. Flatlander

    Rifle Hunt Choices with 5 Points

    Yes, always worth applying. 80% of the tags are issued randomly to people with less than max. Five is enough to put you close to the bonus for some hunts. Here is my suggestion; pick a dream hunt for your first choice and apply because there is almost always a chance. For your second choice, pick a late hunt in a less popular unit that you are comfortable with OR look for a limited opp hunt with a higher success rate (some of those are actually pretty decent) in unit you would enjoy hunting.
  23. Flatlander

    Anyone have the 25' Draw Odds data?

    Depending on what you are looking for there are some options out there.
  24. Flatlander

    I Messed up 3B questions

    It’s not a great hunt. Were you trying to apply for early or late 6A? I haven’t looked to see if there even is an early hunt this year. Comparing late to late, it’s probably not a drastic difference, but 6A is probably better because there are a lot less tags. 3B late is like a general hunt in other units. That being said, there are decent bulls there. I’d be hesitant to point guard.
  25. Flatlander

    Anyone have the 25' Draw Odds data?

    Use the bonus point report to see how many pts it took to make the bonus pass for each hunt. How many pts do you have?
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