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I wonder what other rights they will try to take away from us when Obama is in your town. Bill, I know you look at this guy as a Rambo type, but he volunteered to be the person to carry the gun. The entire day was coordinated in advance with law enforcement just so it was not viewed as a bunch of nuts running around with guns. If we do not unite together to protect our rights, they will be taken away before we can blink an eye. You have so many more years of wisdom and experience than I do; and I respect that fact, but I am not going to let our goverment determine when and where I am able to carry my firearms to protect myself and my family. David Leading The News D.C. delegate calls for ban on guns near Obama By Jordy Yager Posted: 08/19/09 05:51 PM [ET] Del. Eleanor Holmes Norton (D-D.C.) called on the Homeland Security Department and the U.S. Secret Service on Wednesday to provide tighter restrictions on citizens carrying weapons, openly or concealed, while in the vicinity of President Barack Obama. Norton, who sits on the Homeland Security Committee, made the request after numerous news reports have shown groups of people brandishing firearms while outside of events held by Obama over the past several weeks. “It is clear that if the Secret Service can temporarily clear all aircraft from air space when the president is in the vicinity, the agency has the authority to clear guns on the ground that are even closer to the President,” Norton said. But the Secret Service says that Obama was never in danger when a group of about a dozen protesters brandished their firearms outside the Phoenix convention center earlier this week where he was speaking. One man carried an AR-15 assault rifle, but Arizona law allows people to carry unconcealed guns and police made no arrests. “This doesn’t change what already exists for Secret Service,” said Secret Service spokesman Malcolm Wiley of Norton’s request. “Whenever the Secret Service travels somewhere in the country, we are able to determine what the security parameters will be for any particular site and anything within those parameters fall under federal law as far as being able to control what happens there.” “So even if the state law says that you can have a gun as long as it’s not concealed, it doesn’t mean that you can bring a gun into a protected site.” Norton has been battling with gun rights supporters for years because of the District’s former ban on handguns, which was struck down by the Supreme Court last year. More recently, a bill to grant the District a representational vote in Congress has stalled in the House because of an amendment that would make it easier to own a gun in D.C. The Arizona event followed a similar instance in New Hampshire – which has open-carry laws – last week when police arrested a man for having a loaded, unlicensed gun in his car near where Obama was set to hold a healthcare-related forum. Another man outside of that event had a licensed handgun strapped to his leg and held a sign that read: “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants.” “In both instances, those guys were outside of the outer-most perimeter of security, so what would apply is state law,” said Wiley. “They never had any proximity to the president at any time. They weren’t trying to gain access to the event and they weren’t in a position outside the event where they could have affected the president.” But the Brady Campaign, a gun control group, said that these increasing instances of brandishing firearms in public could lead to escalated scenarios in the future that put the president at risk because it stretches law enforcement thin. “Law enforcement has to keep an eye on these people,” said Paul Helmke, president of the group. “So the more people [who] carry guns, the more people you need to keep an eye on them, which stretches limited resources further. You get an event like in Phoenix with maybe 12 or 13 people, what if at the next event there are 100? And when you take the law enforcement resources away, that makes the president more vulnerable.” Larry Pratt, executive director of the Gun Owners of America, a gun rights group in Virginia, said that this is nothing new nor is it different than law-abiding gun owners bringing their weapons into restaurants, as they have been known to do periodically in the Commonwealth. “There have been a few calls to the police and the police have come to the point now where they ask one question: ‘What are these gun carriers doing?’ And they get the response that they’re eating and say, ‘Well, if they start doing something, let us know.’ So when somebody goes to a rally, obviously if the president is there it’s going to get more attention, but I don’t think we’re really dealing with anything different.”

I totally agree with what you said. The weapon was unloaded, plus they had a police escort the entire time. The escort was for there safety from anybody that might try to grab the gun from him in protest. The situation might have had some people disagreeing with him, but it sure got everybody to take a close look at our gun rights. David http://www.arizonashooting.com/v3/viewtopi...f=2&t=86525

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I would like to hear some real world feedback on this peep site if anybody is using one. I have an unorthodox shooting style where I have to draw with my right arm and bring the string under my chin so I can use my left eye to see my sights. I am almost blind in my right eye so I can't switch to a left hand bow. David http://www.keystonecountrystore.com/Archer...PEP1432202.html

I was heading through Camp Verde Saturday morning on the General Crook Trail and had to stop at the gas station to put some air in my airbags to pull my fifth wheel. I rolled in and there was a game and fish truck with a bear trailer on the back giving him some water. David

Shot him near Payson looking into the back window of someones house about midnight. They had to move him into another unit since there was a hunt going on in 23 and you can't eat the meat of a tranquilized animal for fifteen days. David

So has anybody had the chance to shoot this fire breathin bow? I shot the X-force last weekend and loved it, but was thinking about the Omen in the back of my mind. David

Mike, Check out wells fargo. I know they have hired some people within the last couple months. Check on there website for home mortgage consultants. David

Thats pretty cool. You don't hear or see that very often. The coyotes are really hungry right now. David

This is pretty stupid, but I always shave my head down to a number 1 before the fall hunting season gets started. Then I pull out my skill card and throw away my lucky one . David

I welcome any other members to post a video of themselves killing a coyote on the run at that distance. The reason I posted this was to show just how much you need to lead a animal moving at that type of speed. Its not easy by any means. David

I will accept $750 to the first person who gives me a "I will take it". I need to invest more money into a product I am trying to bring to the market. David

I picked this gun up on a trade and already had a home for it, but the deal fell through. It is a brand new Remington model 700 XCR chambered in 300 wsm. To learn more about the gun, take a look at Remingtons website. I am not into big bore guns anymore, so that is the reason I am not looking to keep it. I would like to get $850.00 or trade value $950.00. I am open to trading since this seems to be the common thing lately. Here are some of the guns I am currenlty looking for, but will entertain other offers. http://www.remington.com/products/firearms...del_700_XCR.asp http://www.shootingtimes.com/ballistics/300_wsm.html Benelli SBE II-Left hand eject would be great, but I will accept a righty. Remington r-15 chambered Ruger .204 Dtech AR upper chambered in 243wssm Savage model 99a saddle chambered in 250-3000 Savage model 99f 250-3000 Savage model 99a saddle .243 Let me know what you have got and we can work from there. David

"Most places don't allow you to donate predator meat as the don't consider it eatable." They could have frozen the meat and shipped it down the the Adobe rehabilitation center in north phx. The center will take most meat since they have all types of animals that will eat it, including vultures. I really doubt any type of action will take place against any of the staff since they were probably told to "dump it in the forrest" I know of a gentlemen that received a ticket when he didn't pack out all of his bear meat one time. David

Has anybody used this conversion on there Encore? I have been doing some research on it, but would like to hear from somebody that has used it. I would also be interested in hearing if anybody has tried the Dead Center bullet. David http://www.prbullet.com/prohntr.htm http://www.prbullet.com/

Did you notice if your accuracy got any better with the acp conversion? David

Blake, Sounds like you had a good time, and a hard hunt. Those are the ones you always remember. That would have been cool if you were able to shoot him with your bow. David

Thought this would help you guys with the tags get excited about your upcoming elk hunt. David

I agree with Gino on the 335. It takes alot to make a 350 bull. He sure is good lookin though. Hopefully he won't stray to far away from that area so you can put an arrow in him. David

Even though I posted in another section, I am so excited that I have to show it off a bit. This was a total shot in the dark when I put in for this tag. Muzzleloader muley in December units 39-42. David

I managed to draw a December muzzleloader mule deer hunt in the desert, with only my hunters education point. I will be buying a lottery ticket for sure. I about broke my chair when I leaped out of it from excitement. David

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I have been using a Nikon Monarch 5-20x44 with the BDC on my AR and the 6-24x50 BDC on my .243 and love both of them. They are very clear and work well with the BDC reticle. I also have a buckmaster 4.5-14x40 with the Mil-dot reticle that is a blast to use on my short barreled 7mm-08. David http://www.nikonhunting.com/riflescopes.html

Yes. Off the 137 north of the 300. David

Doug, It looks like split fours is starting to decrease in size this year. He is starting to get old at this point. Is there still a big 5x5 running around in the group? David