muzzlehunter75

Thanks Jim, appreciate all your help. People like you is what makes up this world thanks again I won't forget your advice.

Thanks He seems like a realy nice guy, and I'm taking any info to the t! I wished we could get him as our guide, but finances are pretty tight like alot of people right now. Thanks again for the all the help. Larry

Hey Jim tried to pm you but it said message box full you must be a busy guy. I will try again thanks Larry and Katie!

Thanks jim, We would like to get a bull 320 or more, I told my wife she couldn't shoot anyhing bigger than mine lol! I have hunted in the rut, with good results. MY wife might be expecting so we will have to see on the going after them technique. I was thinking cow calling also so thanks for the advice on that. I appreciate the info we are realy not trophy hunters, but don't get us wrong heck ya we will shoot a nice bull if the opportunity arises. We will pass up small bulls the first couple of days. Thanks again for the advise Jim, hope to talk again Larry [ quote name=COOSEFAN' timestamp='1303858739' post='251855] Welcome to the site and CONGRATS on that tag! What class of bull is she gonna hold out for? Have you hunted elk in the rut before? That is an amazing tag to have and the difficulty of the hunt is entirely based on the size of bull you are holding out for. The main problem with the Muzzy hunt is that the archers and the rut cause the bulls to make big changes right before the hunts start. The good thing is that usually the older bulls have the same patterns when the rut and the pressure start and end up in the same areas annually. The hard thing is spending the years and years learning what those bulls do, when they do it and where they end up. Scouting will help you familiarize yourself with roads, terrain and what class of bulls exist in the unit. Just keep in mind that the big bulls typically move long distances when they rub their velvet and when the rut kicks in. If you got bugles, just go shopping, usually it's not a problem to sneak up to within muzzy distance from a bugling bull. I call it shopping because the bulls are telling you where they are, sneak up, see if he's big enough, if not, move on to the next. The only time I make a noise while shopping is if I step on a loud branch or shuffle rocks I'll do a soft calf or cow mew to cover up the noise, but very sparingly and only if I have to. I also "shock bugle" if I need to get them to bugle for location but again, usually very sparingly and only if I have to. Most bulls have been buggered from the archers and will be call shy so sparingly is always better unless they are full blown ruttin', which they could be, but never count on it! I would never sit water with a muzzleloader if they are bugling, if they aren't talking then water or wallow is the ticket. Glassing is tough and limited in this unit but there are areas that it's effective. Make a note of these glassable areas while your scouting in case you need a backup plan. JIM>

Thanks I will consider that, thanks again for the info!

Hey I know Some good spots in 6a for elk send me a pm if yor inerested i'll give you a area that is good and you will be elk all day!