KGAINES

For those that didn't draw, and really for all of us there is still the super big game raffle, the odds for that can't be to much worse than some of the hunts we put in for. Plus the money goes back to support the wildlife in AZ. http://www.arizonabiggamesuperraffle.com/Home/home.html You can now check online. https://www.wildlifelicense.com/az/start.php

Did anyone else get the new survey from azgfd on big game management. If I would have thought about it before taking it, I would have copy and pasted each question onto a word doc. so everyone could have seen it, my bad. You can't look at it again once taken.

Here is the survey with out the answers. some questions want opinions and others are yes and no. Please indicate the level of agreament with the following statement 1. The AZGFD hears my interest and opinion in big game hunting in arizona 2. As a hunter of big game in Arizona, how do you prefer to become engaged in issues that may effect big game hunting in Arizona? 3. How often do you take an active role (attend meetings, write letters, provide feedback, etc.) in making sure that your interests or opinions are considered by the Arizona Game and Fish Commission regarding big game hunting issues in Arizona? 4.Which of the following do you utilize to ensure that your interests and/or opinions are heard regarding big game hunting in Arizona? 5. Have you ever attended an Arizona Game and Fish Commission meeting? 6. Do any of the following factors represent a barrier to you in attending a Commission meeting? (lack of time, travel, interest) 7. Would you be interested in joining the Department in an active role to further develop ideas regarding big game hunting issues in Arizona 8. Are you interested in attending future Commission meetings where the public offers input to the Commission regarding the subject of big game hunting? 9. How do you prefer to receive news or notifications about big game hunting issues or Commission meetings in Arizona? I received it too. Here are some of my comments. 1. Strongly disagree: (Actually, they do hear it and quite often, they just don't listen.) 5. Yes 6. Other: Some of the Commissioners are rude and condesending towards speakers at the meetings. 7. Yes I can't wait to see what the final results of this survey is, of course they might just fire the dept. personel that are most helpful to us and use the results as justification.

You're killing me with this one, beautiful gun.

I didn't want to blow it for him, but here is the follow up to that picture. More practice is in order. Its great to see all these kids hunting, the smiles are priceless.

Maybe I read it wrong, but I took it that he was referring to the azgfd with the college boy crack, and that the ADA can tell them all they want, but they aren't going to listen. Hopefully the work the ADA and the azgfd are doing in the kaibab and other areas of the state will provide enough information and facts that decisions made that are detrimental to these groups efforts can't be made with no accountability.

My son just turned seven so no big game yet. His first pike last year. Archery A little weather on our javelina hunt this year.

Our dog had a litter of pups and they will be 6 weeks on the 23rd, if any one is interested PM or e-mail me.

Showing at least a little interest

They are six weeks today.

I applied for eight years for elk and this is my first tag, up until I had six points, cow was always my second choice after that I decided to only apply for bull, but the last two years I had a limited opportunity any elk as my second choice. The 6a archery tag was always my first choice.

6A north archery bull, my first elk tag finally

I just called and the automated system is down, when the lady answered I asked for draw results, she told me they would be out this afternoon. We can hope.

I got this e-mail, it says its been around for a while but this is the first time I have seen it. I don't know if its real or not. Moose logging story Lew and the rest of the gang-- We had been trying to keep this under wraps as we knew this would happen once folks found out that with some effort you can train moose to harness. Once this picture got out, it's been E-mailed around like crazy but no one has bothered to fill in the rest of the story so before any rampant rumors get going, I better write down what I know. I folks want to extrapolate on that, then Lord only knows where this picture and story will end up. The man in the picture is Jacques Leroux who lives up near Escourt Station and has always had work horses, first for actual work and then for show at Maine's' many summer fairs. I think he had two matched pairs, one Clydesdales and the other Belgiums. He would turn them out to pasture each morning and then work them in the afternoon dragging the sled around the fields. Three springs ago, he noticed a female moose coming to the pasture and helping herself of the hay and what grain the work horses didn't pick up off the ground. Jacques said he could get within 10 feet of the moose before it would turn and move off. Two springs ago, the moose foaled(?) at the edge of the work horse pasture and upon getting to it's feet had not only the mother in attendance but the four horses. The young moose grew up around the horses and each afternoon when Mr. Leroux took the teams for their daily exercise the yearling moose would trail along the entire route next to the near horse. At some point, the yearling got so accustomed to Mr. Leroux that, after he had brushed each horse after a workout, he started brushing down the moose. The moose tolerated this quite well so Mr. Leroux started draping harness parts over the yearling to see how he would tolerate these objects. The yearling was soon harness broken and now came the question of what could you do with a harness broke moose. As you may or may not know, a great deal of Maine is being bought up by folks "from away" and some of them understand principles of forest management. Well the folks buying small parcels of land up in the area of the Allagash have it in their mind that they don't want big skidders and processors and forwarders on their small wood lots. Enter Mr. Leroux with his teams of horses. Every morning, when Mr.. Leroux loaded the teams into the horse trailer to go off to the days job, the yearling moose got quite riled up and one day loaded himself right into the trailer with the horses. At the job site, Jacques unloaded the horses and as the moose stayed right with them, he would take the Clydesdales and his brother Gaston would take the Belgians and off into the woods they would go with the moose trailing behind. They would put the harness on the moose in case they encountered someone who they could kid with the explanation that the moose was a spare in case something happened to one of the horses. The work required them to skid cut, limbed and topped stems to the landing where the stems could be loaded onto a truck for the pulp mill. All morning long the two brothers brought out twitch after twitch of stems with the moose following the Belgian team for the most part. At lunch break Jacques had the bright idea of putting trace chains and a whiffle tree on the moose's harness and all afternoon the moose went back and forth following the Belgians in and out of the woods dragging his whiffletree along the ground. As there were no stumps in the skid trail, the whiffle tree never hung up on anything and that first day in harness went great. So next day, they hitched on first a small stem and the moose brought it out just fine following the Belgians. Mr. Leroux told me they were up to four small stems now and the moose was doing just great. He cautioned however that there were a few problems with using a bull moose. Come June, when the new antlers start, the new bone is "in velvet" and must itch like crazy as the moose stops every once in awhile and rubs his rack against just about anything to appease the itch. Once, before the brothers learned to tie him of by himself while they had lunch, moose was rubbing his antlers against the hame on the Clydesdale called Jack and got it wedged there for a bit. Jacques said he wished he had a camera as it looked like moose was trying to push Jack over. The other problem is the rutting season. The brothers learned quickly to leave moose in the barn as he was constantly on red alert in the woods during this time. The brothers are also considering trying this with two females to make a matched pair which would become an instant hit at the Maine Fairs. The trouble with the bulls is their racks. They would be constantly rubbing and hitting each other and yes they would have to be gelded as I just couldn't imagine getting the two bulls anywhere near each other, let alone in harness. So now that this picture is going all over the place, the surprise has been let out of the proverbial bag. The Leroux brothers want to continue the work of trying to get a pair of females in harness but they may have to end up breeding moose to do this and that's where they will run into trouble with the State of Maine IF & W. I'm sure they don't like the idea of the brothers "keeping" wild animals. Thought you should know the rest of the story. If any of you doubt this please contact Tom Whitworth in Ashland, Maine. I think he said he was a second cousin to the Lerouxs and has seen this anomaly many times. Regards from your frozen Northeasterly most state, PL

I mentioned the buenos aires because I had heard about them for years down there, but the mention of unit 21 has me curious. I had a friend a few years ago tell me to put in for javelina in there because he knew where there were some big ones, as I questioned him he told me he had seen a group of "javelina" with the biggest one being 3 to 4 hundred pounds, I thought he just exaggerated with the size. I have no doubt he seen something, so now I am wondering if maybe he seen hogs, I may have to question him again.

Congrats Amanda and crew on a couple of great deer, looks like you guys had a great trip.

the way this post was started I just knew britney spears had done something stupid AGAIN

http://library.fws.gov/Refuges/buenos_aires.pdf Page 11 states feral hogs may be hunted if you have a valid hunting license and big game tag.

Well, there went that internship. He is either already hitting the edit button, or that is his whole plan, hire him and they will then have at least somebody there with brains.

That is kind of funny, they fired the company because of the problems, raised the app fee and re-hired them. A few cases of tennessee whiskey must have shown up at someones door, oh yea and the decision was made after a bottle or two.

cochranj if you only had a friend that was a ob-gyn or just hire a guide service that is elk/ob-gyn certified. Congrats on the little one on the way there is nothing cooler than watching your kids being born, God Bless.

I have 228.00 dollar hit on mine so me and my brother will have elk tags ( our first ever ), all of our bonus points finally paid off. Good Luck to all of you guys