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Prayers sent from our family - hard to imagine what you guys are going through. Best wishes.

Snowing hard in Lakeside - supposed to be a big one. We'll see. I hope we're getting lots up top.

If you are British, is Jag-oo-ah.

Part of the problem, IMO is the negative publicity that comes with any type of predator hunting. If I'm not mistaken, hunters used to be able to go along on the helicopter coyote hunts with G&F but the anti's got wind of that and made a stink. The same thing happens when there are predator contests. These are really effective at getting people out there killing coyotes because of the prizes/cash associated with them, end up getting really bad publicity for the same reason. I think the best thing we can do is, like standman and several others here, get out and kill them, make money off the pelts and don't make it too public. It's really fun, and you can do it just about anywhere in the state year round.

I know it's probably rhetorical, but all the lakes up here used to have a lot more ice. If you could get up to Holly, early fall or late spring, good ice fishing. One story I come back to from time to time is way back in the day. A bunch of ice fishermen in a truck going up to Sunrise, and occasionally there would be a few out on A1. One morning there's 2-3 guys out hiking in the snow, drilling holes really early and we stopped to see what they're catching. They kept saying it was shallow and "weedy". They were out in the cienega before A1 trying to fish a frozen field of grass. Can't make this stuff up, but still funny. To this day I can't drive past that cienega and not chuckle.

Animas Valley - typo on my part. Sorry for the confusion.

Belated Merry Christmas to you. I miss seeing you around here too!

That is going to be a really fun challenge - but if anyone can do it, you can. Fun thread, and best of luck.

I've seen a few in Animas Valley just before you break West toward Clanton/Whitmire - right in the main road.

After reading through the recent 6.5 creedmore vs. 7mm-08 thread, I found myself in pretty much the same predicament. I was looking at the Tikka T3X superlight in one of these chamberings. One of the more compelling arguments I found in favor of the 7mm-08 over the 6.5 Creedmoore was the attached youtube vid. It's not particularly exiting, as the two rounds turn out to be very similar with the conclusion that 7mm-08 tended to have more retained energy at longer ranges. Not a surprising stat. What did turn out to be interesting is, the conclusion that if you are deciding between the two and you reload, the 7mm-08 comes out on top, mostly because the best loads for the 6.5CM were factory loads by Hornady using a proprietary mix of powders that the author of the video couldn't reproduce with normal hand loads. Our resident expert, Lance had pretty much the exact opposite conclusion, that hand loading for the 6.5 CM provides better results than 7mm-08, and I'd take his word over anything I see on youtube. He's forgotten more about hand loading than I'll probably ever know. So, that got me to thinking. Of all the hand loading I've done and all the research, I can't recall one time where someone recommended blending powders for an ultimate load. The question is, who out there have tried mixing different powders to get the ultimate hand load, and how did it turn out?

You guys living under a rock or what? We have girl jedis, all girl ghostbusters, even Ocean's 11 - um 8, all girls. I'm just waiting for the all girl version of Lone Survivor, where the don't only kill all the bad guys with jujitsu and knives, but restore peace in the region. Shoot those tranny muleys before they destroy the herd like we have! 😉

Thanks Brian. Man it's weird. When I first moved here back in the '80s the hardest part about ice fishing was either the long trudge in with a couple feet of snow, or drilling half a dozen holes through 12-18" ice. Guess it's just a sign of the times. I know some old guys who used to drive out on Rainbow Lake and cut blocks for their ice house every winter. Can't remember the last time I saw it iced over. Times they are a-changin'.

The crap part of this is we live in a social media age. Simple pictures without context spur emotion. The great thing is, we live in a social media age - we have the power to create discussion. Dichotomy has the power to influence.

dayyumm. Great game.

Hoping to do some ice fishing on Sunrise this week too. It's been a long time but always fun when they're biting. Any new reports?

Thank you for your thoughtful and respectful reply. I agree with you and trphyhntr on the premise that this "could be" a first step toward more banning - hi cap magazines, so-called "assault weapons" in general. Just to be clear, I'm with you guys on this. I have the kind of guns, the kind of magazines and the amount of ammo the anits want banned. It's been illegal since 1932 to turn a semi-auto weapon into fully auto without doing it legally. Many products have been created that blur that line. Now, thinking chess instead of checkers, we have to be smart about this fight because it is going to be a long, hard one. If we go completely into zero regulation beyond what's already there, and what almost zero percent of the population understands, if we take an "all or nothing" approach. And I get that - giving an inch sometimes means opening the door to much more - we can paint ourselves into a corner. On the other hand, let's look at the assault weapons ban of 1994. This was hailed by the anti-gunners as a win at first. In reality, the guns were still there, harder to get, more expensive, but over ten years it lead to no reduction in crime. It proved over time to fail to do the only thing it set out to do. As a result, the ban was lifted, and despite the outcry from the left, gun violence continued to decrease after the sunset of a stupid law. So, my point is, let them have their tiny, short-sighted victories. In the long run, it can be used against them to prove that their policies don't work. I look at it this way. If they succeed in their little battles, it only to gives us more proof that their policies fail every time, that gives us more data to fight them with. If every ban they've tried has absolutely zero affect on crime, their bans can be proven ineffective, which give us the upper hand in future legislation.

Holy Crap - Bump fire stocks??? They are so useful, so accurate. I don't know what my AR or AK would be like without them. Chill guys, it's political pandering. Nothing more, nothing less.

Great job. That's a really good looking buck.

Just picked one of these up in 6.5 CM, but was really tempted by the .243 - sweet rifle. Good luck with the sale.

I've been looking at the Gossamer Gear The One (and The Two). Super light for having a floor. Not a freestanding tent, but not a big concern. I've never seen one in person but it gets consistently good reviews.

That's very generous of you - thank you. PM sent.

I've been looking at various options and I wanted to get opinions here on good/bad etc. It comes with grooves for mounting Warne type bases as well as tapped for others. I've seen some folks add a rail, but I'm not sure what the added benefit is of a rail when it's already grooved. I'm definitely looking for something that takes advantage of the built-in recoil lug hole. Thanks in advance.

I've heard the stat of over $1M per wolf many times from lots of different sources. Crazy. The irony, IMO is that you can get fined very heavily and other legal issues if you so much as leave neck meat behind in NM, yet the wolves are killing elk in NM to the point where recruitment rate is barely keeping up, if not falling behind. Don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating wasting game meat, but I find it interesting that it's considered OK for wolves to wreak havoc on deer and elk while such high standards are in place for sportsmen.

Good to see all the replies here. Personally, trying to come up with a blended powder isn't something I'd ever want to try. I just found it interesting that the guy in the video I posted determined that hand loads for 6.5CM were not going to be able to match Hornady's factory loads. For what it's worth, I ended up getting the Tikka in 6.5CM over the 7MM-08 just out of practicality. My son has a 6.5CM he bought for a steal and I was already planning to hand-load for his. I also already have a 6.5x284 Norma that I love, and recently got a 6.5x55 Swedish handed down, so I'll have lots of bullets to reload. The other factors were the 7MM-08 in this rifle only came with a 22 inch barrel where the CM came in 24 and I generally prefer longer barrels. Along that while researching this topic some people found the 7-08 more finicky. Many found it to be super easy to reload for, but I opted to not take the chance. Given my luck I'd end up with one of the few that needed extra attention. With so many 6.5's to load for I figured this was probably the best way to go for me. Again, thanks for all the insight and experience.

I think Flatlander is spot on. This is kind of a "keep it in the family" subject, IMO. We who hunt know what's really going on. We know what needs to happen in regards to keeping predator levels in check. That doesn't mean we shove it in the face of those who are on the fence, or know little to nothing about real conservation. If the battle is about who is right and who is wrong, we must conduct ourselves as stewards. Because, as we all know, there are countless so-called activists that will use emotions over logic to combat us. Let's not give them ammo.