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13B tag - Lots of country to learn and scout - a long way from home. Several good folks have already given some pointers, which I really appreciate.

Wow, tons of great info there BOHNTR. I'm going to memorize that thread.

I feel your pain. Years back I met a guy who hadn't drawn a December coues tag in something like 10 years. He about killed me when I told him I had drawn my unit 4 of 5 years in December. There were a lot more tags in there back then but it was still only supposed to be around a 16% draw rate for that unit. I used to know a family that it seemed every year drew archery bull and always speculated something fishy was going on, but I don't believe that is the case anymore. No doubt some people draw more often than others, and I have to count myself as one of the really lucky ones over the years but I really believe it is just that - luck (unless I have some super-secret friend in G&F I don't know about ).

That is a great deal on a super muzzle loader. I'm thinking that barrel alone is worth what you are asking for the rifle. I've got a buddy who might be interested. Somebody is going to get a really nice gun dirt cheap. If I didn't already have 4 muzzle loaders and a really long wish list, I'd be interested for myself.

Does anyone know if the "no magazine restriction" applies to shotguns? I shoot an over/under for quail but just got a 870 tactical that would make a great turkey gun but it hold 7 rounds (could be plugged).

Congratulations Tony! I can't wait to see the pictures and read all about your adventure.

Thanks guys!

Wow - that thing is a monster. Hope you can get back on him.

No way I'm going to get any work done in the next couple months... Species Result Hunt No. Season Dates Open Areas Permit No. Reject Description Deer Draw Successful 01022 Nov 09 - Nov 18, 2012 UNIT 13B 000043 Two of my boys drew the 27 Jr. Hunt. I'm in shock...

I've got a Ranger, but I'm hesitant to take it hunting because it seems like it would be fairly easy to steal. I've done some searching and I know you can get alarms for them, but I'm not interested in that. Seems the only way to immobilize them is with a cable, but that doesn't seem real foolproof either. Just curious what others out there have found to keep your OHV safe when you leave it to hunt for the day.

Just in case anyone was wanting one of these and didn't get one before they doubled in price, Amazon still has a couple for $69.95. And they are eligible for Amazon Prime, meaning free 2-day shipping and no tax. Just thought I'd pass this along. http://www.amazon.com/Badlands-Mag-Bino-Case-3-Inch/dp/B00200MX30/ref=sr_1_1?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1343148310&sr=1-1&keywords=badlands+bino+case

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Wow - I way over shot it! Looks like I gave him an extra 20 inches. So, maybe for myself, the best way to guage if it's over 185 is if I lose control of my bowels when I see it. Told you I stink at this.

Good info guys - good to hear they aren't stolen that often in the field.

Well, I stink at this, but I need to learn how as well. I always look first at the width of the frame, then how deep the forks are, front and back, then mass, then junk. The muley in pic has a great frame - looks really wide. Mass looks OK and fork depth is a little weak. So if I had to guess a score I would have to put him around high 170s to mid 180s. Don't get me wrong, that is a gorgeous buck. If I saw that buck anywhere in the state besides the Kaibab I'd shoot him opening day with weapon, if I didn't have a heart attack first.

Nice looking bull - Good luck getting on him again this year!

Just tried to stick my 15s in them and they don't fit well at all - that's fine for me, I'm using them for 10s but I would not recommend them for Swaro 15x56s.

I'll try them with my 15s and get back with you in a bit.

That is WILD! I bet that had you guys tickled pink all night.

Amazon is also a great source for SD cards. I bought 3 4GB cards and one 8GB for a little over $17 shipped last week. Just did a quick search and found this - not quite as cheap but a pretty good deal... http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-SDSDB-004G-B35-4GB-SDHC-card/dp/B000WQKOQM/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&qid=1343068804&sr=8-11&keywords=sandisk+sd+card That's under $15 for 3 shipped right to your door and no tax.

+1 on being VERY careful about your words and actions when dealing with ANY law enforcement officer, including G&F. If you happen to find one on a day he/she is looking to "make some busts", your words can and will be used against you - even out of context. I generally love to see G&F out there and even used to wave them down and start a conversation. I've stopped this practice, and now let them drive on by. 9 of 10 are super good folks and will tell you anything you want to know. But if you happen to hit that 1 out of 10 that assumes everyone in the woods is a poacher - or doing something illegal, you can find yourself on the defensive real quick. These kind of guys can and will find something to use against you - the last thing you want to do is give them ammo. Again, I have the upmost respect for AZGFD wardens and I want them out there doing what they do. The vast majority I've encountered in 3 decades of hunting here really have their head and heart in the right place. They want to protect our game from poachers, our forests from people dumping trash and to preserve hunting, fishing and the outdoor lifestyle we all love while protecting it from those that would abuse it. That said, there are the few who have a different mentality. These guys assume everyone out there is doing something wrong, and they make it their sole purpose to go "make things right" by their minds. If you encounter one of these guys, whether it's G&F, DPS, local sheriff's posse, whatever - they will do anything and say anything to get you say something they can use against you. Every question is loaded, a trap, and the more you say, the more rope you give them to hang you with. IMO, if you want scouting advice, ask other hunters. If you are confronted by any LEO give the shortest honest anwers possible.

+1 on the paint fading to purple. That's why I bought a sparkly red one.

This is bigger than just the second Ammendment. Obama is part of an organized group dead set on creating a global government - a single governing body in charge of the money and laws that all nations must abide by - superceding their own "federal laws" including the Constitution. Before you suggest adjusting my tinfoil hat, do some investigating on your own and see if this is and outlandish accusation or whether the facts support it. Google is your friend, and it's all right there. The funny thing is, they aren't even denying it.

I posted on some other threads about home-made boxes I have used to protect my camera. Several members have PM'd me for more info on the design so I thought I'd just start a thread here and put the pictures up for everyone. Of course, if someone is determined enough, they will take it - or destroy it. One caveat. These designs involve lag bolting a steel box to a tree. If you are offended by that practice, or want to discuss the legality of it, I would prefer not to do it on this thread. For what it's worth, treestand steps screw into the tree as far as the bolts I use to secure my cameras. The basic idea is to keep the lock inside the box or protected so it can’t be snipped with bolt cutters and attach the box to a tree with lag bolts that are only accessible when the box is open. Here’s one for a DLC Covert 3.0 CA Two halves. The front slides down onto the back. There’s a lock lug sticking out from each side. How the lock lugs look when the halves are slid together . The back side of the box. The serrated “wings” ensure that you can’t get a blade in from the side. All done. Those little chain “ears” are just in case I want to put a python lock on it to give it the illusion that it’s not lag bolted to the tree. I never use them and will eventually cut them off. Here’s one for a Moultrie M80. Little deeper body and I added a swiveling mount for this one. This one uses a traditional hinge design with the lock on the opposite side. Gotta cover up the lock so it can’t be snipped. Hinge. Notice the top cover slides under a sturdy lip so there’s no pry point there. Holes in the back for lag bolts. Big holes in the box, small ones at in the pivoting mount. Side view with pivot mount. Front view finished. They’re a little heavy, but it would take some work to get the camera out of one.

\ +1. The locals here revere the deer herd for the most part, and really get active about reporting suspicious activity. We did have a case a couple years back where some local guys were shooting horses from the reservation, then sitting on the carcasses to poach bears, but G&F did catch them. Shane - wow, I've seen all those pix on here before, but I've got to hand it to you. You know where to find those big deer. I've hunted and scouted 3C for many years and have yet to see the kind of deer your family and clients harvest. Kudos.