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South of Alpine in unit 27 bail off the rim to the east anywhere south of Campbell Blue River. Stay where you see fresh deer sign. This is a tough hunt so plan on staying overnight but there are lions and they don't get called all that much, be prepared to chase off a bear or two while you're down there. it is a long hike most anywhere into this country so prepare appropriately.

Some may have missed or may miss the point about oneshot's comment. It is about our hunting heritage and ensuring we have the hunters today and tomorrow to pass on that heritage. Anyone can make their hunt restricted to any degree, that is a personal choice, let it stay that way. We can manage a deer or elk herd in many different ways, having units that produce good bulls and good bucks should be one of our management goals. Having most of our units producing healthy populations that provide an opportunity for all hunters to hunt on a regular basis should also be one of our goals. Ensuring we are providing young hunters an opportunity to develop their hunting style by hunting on a regular basis is also an important goal. we will continue to face a lot of challenges with an ever increasing population in a state with limited resources. We should work together to improve habitats ensuring wildlife a place to be in our future. Just as important is ensuring our hunting future and that means setting the example that allows non-hunters to support our choice to hunt.

vainglorious & specious - sums it up

Well, yet just another example of how bonecollector777 doesn't have any of the right information and simply spouts untrue rumor mill crap to prop up his ego! good luck in life buddy!

Share it with the Department Nov. 30, Tucson regional office, 555 N. Greasewood Road Dec. 4, Pinetop regional office, 2878 E. White Mountain Blvd. Dec. 4, Mesa regional office, 7200 E. University Drive Dec. 5, Flagstaff regional office, 3500 S. Lake Mary Road Dec. 5, Kingman regional office, 5325 N. Stockton Hill Road Dec. 5, Yuma regional office, 9140 E. 28th St. The final elk and pronghorn hunt recommendations will be presented to the Arizona Game and Fish Commission for consideration during its Saturday, Dec. 8 meeting in Phoenix at the Game and Fish headquarters at 5000 W. Carefree Highway, Phoenix (1.5 miles west of I-17

BEST meat processor......walk to your kitchen look at the knife block or the knife drawer.....there you have it the best meat processors in the state without question. why? you know exactly how long it is aged(hung at 40 degrees F, up to 30 days if you pay attention), you know it didn't hang laying against someone else's elk that maybe did take as good of care to keep it clean, you know exactly what it looked like as it is being cut up, you know exactly how much waste there is, you can remove all the sinew and fat if you like, you can package it exactly like you need, you can custom mix the burger (pork shoulder at 20% is a starting place), you can basically make the best darn meat on the planet. As good as any meat processor might be they will never care for your meat as well as you can.

agree and rather than wasting time playing the blame game, do something constructive and contact your representatives, the appropriate committee chairs, etc.... and tell THEM you are disappointed and want something done about it. I'm pretty sure none of them will read your passing blame game snippits on this forum.

well said

for the few self-righteous know it all....., go take a 4th amendment constitutional law class sometime then come back and spout the same know it all c@#$. Here is a good place to start http://leotraining.com/

Answer - NO 13-3111. Minors prohibited from carrying or possessing firearms; exceptions; seizure and forfeiture; penalties; classification A. Except as provided in subsection B, an unemancipated person who is under eighteen years of age and who is unaccompanied by a parent, grandparent or guardian, or a certified hunter safety instructor or certified firearms safety instructor acting with the consent of the unemancipated person's parent or guardian, shall not knowingly carry or possess on his person, within his immediate control, or in or on a means of transportation a firearm in any place that is open to the public or on any street or highway or on any private property except private property owned or leased by the minor or the minor's parent, grandparent or guardian. B. This section does not apply to a person who is fourteen, fifteen, sixteen or seventeen years of age and who is any of the following: 1. Engaged in lawful hunting or shooting events or marksmanship practice at established ranges or other areas where the discharge of a firearm is not prohibited. 2. Engaged in lawful transportation of an unloaded firearm for the purpose of lawful hunting. 3. Engaged in lawful transportation of an unloaded firearm between the hours of 5:00 a.m. and 10:00 p.m. for the purpose of shooting events or marksmanship practice at established ranges or other areas where the discharge of a firearm is not prohibited. 4. Engaged in activities requiring the use of a firearm that are related to the production of crops, livestock, poultry, livestock products, poultry products, or ratites or in the production or storage of agricultural commodities. C. If the minor is not exempt under subsection B and is in possession of a firearm, a peace officer shall seize the firearm at the time the violation occurs. D. In addition to any other penalty provided by law, a person who violates subsection A shall be subject to the following penalties: 1. If adjudicated a delinquent juvenile for an offense involving an unloaded firearm, a fine of not more than two hundred fifty dollars, and the court may order the suspension or revocation of the person's driver license until the person reaches eighteen years of age. If the person does not have a driver license at the time of the adjudication, the court may direct that the department of transportation not issue a driver license to the person until the person reaches eighteen years of age. 2. If adjudicated a delinquent juvenile for an offense involving a loaded firearm, a fine of not more than five hundred dollars, and the court may order the suspension or revocation of the person's driver license until the person reaches eighteen years of age. If the person does not have a driver license at the time of the adjudication, the court may direct that the department of transportation not issue a driver license to the person until the person reaches eighteen years of age. 3. If adjudicated a delinquent juvenile for an offense involving a loaded or unloaded firearm, if the person possessed the firearm while the person was the driver or an occupant of a motor vehicle, a fine of not more than five hundred dollars and the court shall order the suspension or revocation of the person's driver license until the person reaches eighteen years of age. If the person does not have a driver license at the time of adjudication, the court shall direct that the department of transportation not issue a driver license to the person until the person reaches eighteen years of age. If the court finds that no other means of transportation is available, the driving privileges of the child may be restricted to travel between the child's home, school and place of employment during specified periods of time according to the child's school and employment schedule. E. Firearms seized pursuant to subsection C shall be held by the law enforcement agency responsible for the seizure until the charges have been adjudicated or disposed of otherwise or the person is convicted. Upon adjudication or conviction of a person for a violation of this section, the court shall order the firearm forfeited. However, the law enforcement agency shall return the firearm to the lawful owner if the identity of that person is known. F. If the court finds that the parent or guardian of a minor found responsible for violating this section knew or reasonably should have known of the minor's unlawful conduct and made no effort to prohibit it, the parent or guardian is jointly and severally responsible for any fine imposed pursuant to this section or for any civil actual damages resulting from the unlawful use of the firearm by the minor. G. This section is supplemental to any other law imposing a criminal penalty for the use or exhibition of a deadly weapon. A minor who violates this section may be prosecuted and adjudicated delinquent for any other criminal conduct involving the use or exhibition of the deadly weapon. H. A person who violates subsection A is guilty of a class 6 felony.

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Be where the cows want to be before they get there, use a calf call to redirect or stop an incomming cow for a shot.

Easy to say when it’s not your job getting cut. Everybody seems so quick to point out all the flaws. It seems there are a lot of dedicated city/government workers that don't often get a raise and quietly go about doing a great job. I'd bet a dollar to a doughnut if the kind of microscope view they look at state and local government was used on the private sector businesses a lot of you folks throwing out criticism from your glass house would be out of a job pretty darn quick.

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O.L. Adcock ACS Longbow Grizzly 165 gr broadhead ahead of 345 granis of shafting - Range out to 45 depending on the set up RabidApache! Finally someone that shoots a real bow!

anyone notice the guy in the background at about 29 seconds, where u @ coyote or possibly ?

Saw the first elk calf of the year last night off the Water Canyon road south of Eagar, didnt look like it was more than a day or two old!

The area is beginning the road to recovery, many of the browse species have resprouted, a lot of grasses and of course the aspens. Even though elk and deer like aspens there are enough it will not matter. the seeding they did seems ot be inhibiting some growth but has stabilized the soils. deer and elk will respond well. the turkey population was mostly lost, they will recover but it will take time. Show up for the AES work weekend June 9th, we will be rolling fence up, a lot of old burned dangerous fence to be removed! You can see for yourself how things are coming along and help improve wildlife habitat.

Why create a law that is an ethical issue and is unenforceable. You can't police ethics! Nothing in life is 100% and to think that just because someone is unable to recover game that they made some unethical choice is not realistic. The best hunters in the world, meaning lions, tigers, wolves etc. are successful maybe 10% of the time, to think that human hunters should never wound something is silly, its just part of hunting. A lot of our game laws have an ethical nexus, doesn't mean they shouldn't be laws. I also never said hunters do not wound game, they do. If more hunters had the ethical position of having tag soup after wounding and loosing an animal we wouldn't even need to consider this discussion. The fact remains, that is not the case. IMHO

Doesn't sound discriminatory at all and the FACT of the matter is there are a LOT of us that would prefer to never hear an ATV again, I'll walk thank you! If you want to sight see, hunt, or what ever on an ATV do so where the roads are open and have fun. The fact that you can't drive over every square inch of the forest is a good thing.

By making the statement in the rule that "All roads are closed unless posted open", that's how. Like it or not, that's what they are doing.

Good law - AZ should adopt the same basic law for all big game species

Region I - Pinetop 2878 E. White Mountain Blvd. Pinetop, AZ 85935 directions* 928-367-4281 Ask to have the WM call you, he can help.

If you want long (or short ) range stability and repeatability, do like Howard Hill (rememeber Howard), shoot fixed blades with a 3 to 1 length to width ratio. works every time

Well Said! Use the Quads God Gave You!