WhtMtnHunter

So for you guys that have been on this hunt. Sitting on 30 points do you apply for the spring tag or go to Raymond ranch or just wait for a few more years? How far from the GCNP border are the salt licks set? What are the consequences of simply going where the bison are even if that means walking past or interfering with the paid clientele?

This gun is absolutely awesome! It is worth well over $5000. It will be raffled off regardless of how many tickets sell, and as of right now I believe they have sold less than 80 total. That's an incredible chance at a completely custom rifle. Get a ticket(or 3)! Also--get out of the heat, enjoy some cool rain in the mountains, and join us at the banquet August 20th!

I purchased one at Sportsmans Warehouse up here for $549 about 2 months ago. Not sure if they are still in stock or at the same price. Might be worth a call. Really fun gun! Also got a good deal on bulk ammo at laxammo.com...because it eats ammo!

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As a lifelong AZ resident this is a no-brainer! I love AZ but the choice is simple really. NM all the way. There is no unit in AZ where you can hunt bulls in prime time every year. More like every 8+ years. It comes down to math. There are twice as many elk in NM than AZ and 1/3 the population of people. The odds reflect this and you will hunt elk in NM many more times than you ever will in AZ. Throw in the free ranging exotics and NM is one of the best states in the west as far as hunting is concerned. You can always cross the border and take advantage of AZ's OTC archery deer hunts for about $500. Personally I would move to AZ for 6 months, get your lifetime license, and then move to NM!

It's equally or even more important to look at the amount of points it takes to be in the bonus pass. 2 hunts may have very similar overall odds but one might have a lower 20% pass. For example, several years ago I applied for 2 archery bull elk hunts. First choice was unit 1 followed by unit 3B. Unit 1 was about a 6% draw and 3B about 10%. Because of the number of points i had at the time I drew the 3B hunt in the bonus pass round. In other words my 1st choice was never even considered. The bonus pass round looks at and includes both your 1st and 2nd choices.

I will add $20 to the pot for the next draw. Winner gets my $20 plus rossislider's $20 if he is willing to do it again! (please open the window more than 2 weeks)

http://www.sportfishingreport.com/pages/docktotals.php Bluefin! Top Gun and Reel Champion are looking good for some early season action!

Hi, I drew a Goulds tag for 33 and am heading down next week to scout a little. Have hunted 33(northeast side) for 15+ years every January for coues and javelina but haven't seen a turkey. So am planning on heading up towards Summerhaven and trying to find them a little higher than average javelina country. Not looking for someone's secret spot but just some general areas to check out. Any help is greatly appreciated.

Hey biglakejake, where do you get the fish counts?

Interesting! Perhaps it was the Aspen Fire that hurt or eliminated them? My tag just says "Bearded Turkey" , but I really applied and want to make sure I get a Goulds. Any quick way to identify them?

Did I win? Or did we all lose? Kinda feels like both...

Who needs that many points??? Brian I STILL HATE YOU! Its good to be hated every now and then. WhtMtnHunter good luck on your hunt. Ive hunted them three times now, and I want to do it again. Thats how much fun it is. Brian Thanks Mr. standman! I'm getting really excited!

I think I remember reading that all the Merriams died off in the 80's in the Catalinas for some reason.

Thanks for all the replies! Hopefully I will be able to post some success pics in a few weeks. muledeerarea33? - there is an archery only hunt in the Rincons, however my hunt is limited to north and west of Reddington road.

I had 9 points. How many are you sitting on? I usually don't get lucky in the draws, always take max points for me to draw anything!

Thanks bowhnt! I had not considered the hippies trying to interfere. That is not something I have much experience with. How long did it take you buddy to get one?

I just updated my card(3/20). It is still open. They usually send out the email so that they can reduce the amount of calls/attempts after the draw. They also typically cut off the update period about a week before they start running cards. It's still a ways out.

You guys sure are optimistic! Haven't even received the "update your credit card" email yet! 10.59 am March 31 (but really the credit card hits won't start until April)

Just my experience having killed my 10th javelina last Sunday. 3 with my rifle, 6 with my bow, and the last 1 with my muzzle loader in 4 different units. I am sure there are better advisers around but these are just my thoughts. 1. If I am specifically looking for javelina then I will never find them. Instead I convince myself that I am looking for deer, cattle, mountain lion, or anything other than pigs. I will tell myself that this is a scouting trip for future hunts and look for other game while I am glassing. This last trip I saw many deer and a fox in the first 90 minutes, and enjoyed every second of looking, before I spotted the herd of skunk pigs.. 2. Javelina seem to move later than most other animals. I have been up well before dark, hiked to a top of a hill with great views and not seen anything for 2 hours after sunlight. Just this last Sunday I was in a great spot with 360 degree views, about 270 degrees of that view seemed like perfect habitat. After 90 minutes i decided to pack up and move. As I dropped my tripod and looked down there was a herd of pigs on the "unfavorable" hillside just 150 yards away. 5 minutes later I shot the biggest one with my muzzy at 136 yards. Most of the pigs I have taken have been between 9 and 12. 3. Terrain that "looks good" to you means nothing to a javelina! Don't try to out-think a javelina, you will lose every time! 4. When you find pigs don't just get too excited and immediately rush after them. Watch them for 15-20 minutes. Often they will change directions several times and the stalk you may have originally taken will be useless. 5. Always remember a "successful" javelina hunt is one where every one else gets a pig but you! They are very skunky animals, consisting of 90% guts, and there is no shame in passing from shooting one! Good luck!

Here you go! 2015 AZ fall leftovers.pdf

If you are just starting out in the NR tag game, then definitely get the Huntin Fool for a year. The $100 is well worth it for the information you will need to get you started. You can always go back and look at the old magazines, the information rarely changes. If a new unit rises, by the time you see it in print it will be too late anyway. I look back at my Huntin Fool mags from 10 years ago and there isn't much difference.

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This is an interesting concept. My only question is are you bonded? And for how much? Meaning if, in 10 or 15 years, you decide not to do it anymore for any reason, or you sell the business to someone else, or god forbid you pass away, will those who have paid in for several years be able to get all their money back? A performance/indemnity bond might cover this contingency. Just curious, good luck with your venture.

That's pretty neat! I want to do this hunt soon. Let's see some pics of your Buffalo!