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    5 collectible african hunting books

    I'VE REDUCED THE PRICE FROM $300 PLUS SHIPPING TO $275 INCLUDING SHIPPING.
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    2010 Coues Hunt

    Congratulations. Incidentally, your photos made me wonder if the sotol stalk that is growing out of the top of your head gives you any problems when you go through doorways. Bill Quimby
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    Sixty Years A Hunter

    I'll PM you with the details when the books arrive from Safari Press. It usually takes a couple of weeks. Hope you enjoy the book. Bill Quimby
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    Sixty Years A Hunter

    I will be buying a few more copies of my book from the publisher in the next couple of weeks. If anyone wants a signed copy, please let me know and I'll order and inscribe one for you. The price is $50 and includes cost of a shipping box, packaging material and media mail postage. Bill Quimby
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    30A Dos Cabezas access issues

    I also see both sides of this issue: I feel empathy for someone when the "improvements" he has erected on our land are senselessly threatened. However, I also view this as part of his cost of doing business on the public's land. Why must I work for free for anyone who me denies access to lands that belong to me and all other citizens, simply because of a comparatively few vandals? Bill Quimby
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    30A Dos Cabezas access issues

    I don't like it at all, but we will never begin to attack the access problem by keeping it a sportsman's issue. It is not just us who are being denied the right to visit our public lands. We need to take advantage of the superior numbers of other outdoor recreationists. The Interior, Agriculture and Defense departments will not change lease requirements until forced to do so. To do this, we need a champion in Congress, backed by a large number of outdoor groups with varied interests. Incidentally, Larry, the ambivalence of hunters and their reluctance to do anything worthwhile to open up public lands to the public is nothing new, and it is matched only by the selfishness of those who are able to find ways to hunt where others cannot. I spent much of my 27 years at the Tucson Citizen campaigning for public access to public lands. I even did a series of eight Page 1 feature articles in the mid-1980s that spotlighted specific problems in southern Arizona, including two different areas where ranchers had closed many historic roads that had been maintained for years by taxpayers in Pima and Pinal counties. By closing all the other roads, the ranchers forced everyone to enter state land past their houses "so they could keep track of who is going on 'their' ranches." The result? I was able to get the locks off the power line road across the Mustang Mountains, which had been totally closed to the public for at least 15 years. Period. End of story. What happened after that was the Game and Fish Commission, wanting to placate grazers, unofficially adopted a policy of cooperation with leaseholders that has resulted in our having to log in and out of state lands on those two ranches. Later, it created a staff position responsible for working with leaseholders and landowners on access problems. I don't know about now, but early on it seemed to me that hunters were getting the short end of the landowner-relations stick. Since retiring from the Citizen in 1994, I haven't followed the commission's or department's issues as closely as I once did, but it seems to me there are more locked gates than ever. Bill Quimby
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    30A Dos Cabezas access issues

    Larry: I would prefer to attack the access problem by putting a lessee's public land leases in serious jeopardy if he denies access to that land to the public. This would make it more than a sportsman's issue and improve a bill's chances for being passed in Congress and state legislatures. Bill Quimby
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    british 303

    I don't need another rifle, but that's a good price for a "sporterized" Enfield. The caliber is still popular in Africa for everything from warthog up to 1,500-pound eland. Bill Quimby
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    The Forest Service is a

    Thanks. It seems like every other year for the past few years there has been a grass fire near Springerville/Eagar. Glad they got it under control before it got to any forested areas. Bill Quimby
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    The Forest Service is a

    Keep us posted. Bill Quimby
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    dad not letting me hunt

    "I was FORTUNATELY" and "had a great ROLL model," Jack? And what happened to the apostrophes in "dads" and "thats?" You need them to make dad possessive and indicate the contraction of that is. Tsk, tsk. Just teasing. Bill Quimby
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    3C Mule Deer Sucess!

    Thanks. Yes, I did look at his teeth (I skinned off the hide from the skull to freeze it for mounting). Is there something to learn from his teeth? Thx, Bob Here's a site that will help explain: http://mdc.mo.gov/hunting-trapping/deer/how-tell-age-deer Bill Quimby
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    spring draw results are out.

    Spring gobbler around my cabin, April 22-28, May 6-19. Don't know why I applied for this hunt again. All the turkey, elk, deer and bear in unit 1 moved to units 27, 2 and 3, never to return. The place is absolutely devoid of game. Bill Quimby
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    3C Mule Deer Sucess!

    I would call it a forked horn or two-pointer. Eyeguards on both mule deer and whitetails are not counted in what has come to be known as "western count." Also, usually, only the best side is considered. For example, a rack with three tines and an eyeguard on one side and two tines and an eyeguard on the other would be a three by two or a "three-pointer." "Eastern count," that same buck would be a seven-pointer. The eastern method also counts every bump "long enough to hang a ring on" as a tine, so if that eastern-count seven-pointer had a one-half-inch bump and a 3/4-inch gnarly thing growing on it, it would be called a nine-pointer. Here, most hunters ignore a bump unless it's a clearly defined tine at least an inch long. In "western counting" elk, the eyeguards are counted. Nice deer, Bob. Congratulations. I cannot remember how many times I've shot an animal (or at an animal) and spooked others I'd not known were there. That's why I smile when I hear people say someplace has little game because they spent all day glassing it and saw very few deer, pigs or whatever. Bill Quimby
  15. What type of music do you want? My grandson has two bands. Google Logan Greene and the Bricks to hear some of his original music. Bill Quimby
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    Got an armored truck for your Sonora hunt?

    It's a good thing you're not "U.S. personnel," Tony. Bill Quimby
  17. Anyone taking odds on how long it will take for an anti-hunting or vegetarian group to say the proposition’s defeat is proof that the majority of Arizonans believe we have no right to kill and eat wild animals, birds and fish? Bill Quimby
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    Immigrant Activity?

    My wife and I own eighty acres overlooking the Kino Springs golf course and the Santa Cruz River, a couple of miles east of Nogales and about 1 1/2 miles as the crow flies from the border. To reach the edge of our property, we open a developer's locked gate and drive a half mile over a road that was bladed across the slope above land. It is open enough that anyone already in the canyon will know the instant we open the gate and drive in. We have never visited the place without finding signs of recent human activity (including small piles of empty duct-taped plastic packages) on our land, but in maybe a hundred trips there over the past 15-20 years we have never seen a soul. There were several times we felt we were being watched but we were never approached or threatened by anyone. However, whenever we had a tailgate picnic under one of our walnut trees, it was only a few minutes before a low-flying single-engine aircraft would fly in a circle above us. I always presumed it was a Border Patrol airplane checking us out. Bill Quimby
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    Immigrant Activity?

    My wife and I own eighty acres overlooking the Kino Springs golf course and the Santa Cruz River, a couple of miles east of Nogales and about 1 1/2 miles as the crow flies from the border. To reach the edge of our property, we open a developer's locked gate and drive a half mile over a road that was bladed across the slope above land. It is open enough that anyone already in the canyon will know the instant we open the gate and drive in. We have never visited the place without finding signs of recent human activity (including small piles of empty duct-taped plastic packages) on our land, but in maybe a hundred trips there over the past 15-20 years we have never seen a soul. There were several times we felt we were being watched but we were never approached or threatened by anyone. However, whenever we had a tailgate picnic under one of our walnut trees, it was only a few minutes before a low-flying single-engine aircraft would fly in a circle above us. I always presumed it was a Border Patrol airplane checking us out. Bill Quimby
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    Fall Turkey on San Carlos

    A big buck and a big bird ... what a year you're having Amanda. Congratulations. Bill Quimby
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    PROP 109

    The other side didn't wait to gloat. Below is from the Humane Society of the United States' website the day after the election. Note the last paragraph and its implied threat of more to come. -- Bill Quimby Arizona Voters Shoot Down Prop 109 Defeated by preliminary margin, Prop 109 results demonstrate Arizona voter support for animal protection policies and the right to citizen initiatives PHOENIX Nov. 3, 2010 — Voters sent a strong message to the Arizona Legislature on Tuesday by rejecting Proposition 109, a referendum that would have amended the Arizona Constitution to give the legislature “exclusive” authority over wildlife issues while seeking to also forbid citizens from initiating statutory petitions. “We are grateful to the citizens of Arizona for once again rejecting an attempt by the trophy hunting lobby to block citizen initiatives to protect wildlife,” said Kari Nienstedt, Arizona state director for The Humane Society of the United States. “It’s always better to keep power in the hands of the people, and that’s just what voters did tonight by saying ‘no’ to Prop 109. This is a victory for voters and for wildlife, and a defeat for the NRA and other special interests that don’t trust the judgment of voters.” Prop 109 was one of 10 measures on the 2010 ballot. If passed, Prop 109 would have given the Arizona Legislature “exclusive” authority over wildlife issues, disturbing the system that is partially insulated from politics and has been in effect in Arizona for more than 80 years. Prop 109 also would have threatened voter rights regarding the initiative process when it came to inhumane and unethical wildlife treatment. “Arizona voters spoke loud and clear. They don’t want the Legislature to politicize wildlife policy,” said Stephanie Nichols-Young, chair of Arizonans Against the Power Grab – No on 109. “Prop 109 was a power grab, pure and simple—and the voters of Arizona not only knew it, but clearly opposed it.” Several former Arizona Game and Fish Commissioners lauded the results, encouraged that the vote will help keep science-based wildlife management in place. “My wife and I hunt and fish each year, and I’m glad voters saw through the shady language and deceptive wording of this referendum so that we could enjoy these wonderful traditions for years to come,” said former Commissioner Tom Woods. A coalition of organizations across the state provided the foundation for a strong grassroots effort. Funding for the campaign was provided by the Humane Society of the United States, with 230,000 supporters in Arizona. The primary funder among Prop 109 proponents was the National Rifle Association, which persuaded the Legislature to place the referendum on the ballot, and then contributed more than $223,000 in support of the campaign. Tempe resident Thomas Hulen, a hunter and self-described conservationist, voted no on Prop 109. “As a longtime hunter, I’m ecstatic that this ridiculous ballot referendum has gone down to defeat,” he said. “There is no threat to hunting and fishing in Arizona, and I’m glad my hunting buddies and other Arizonans who voted ‘no’ realized that.” Opposition to Prop 109 was widespread including prominent elected officials, community leaders, and organizations such as the Animal Defense League of Arizona, the Sierra Club, and the Humane Society of the United States. By the end of the campaign, nearly all major news outlets that weighed in on the issue editorialized against Prop 109 including The Arizona Republic, East Valley Tribune, Tucson Citizen, Tucson Weekly, Arizona Daily Star and The Yuma Sun. The failure of Prop 109 marks the latest defeat of efforts by special interests to weaken Arizona’s now well-established reputation for supporting animal protection efforts and the right to citizen initiatives. In 2006, Arizona voters approved the Humane Farming initiative. In 2000, Arizona voters overwhelmingly rejected a ballot measure that would have required all wildlife initiatives pass by a two-thirds vote. In 1998, Arizona voters approved an initiative that banned cockfighting after the Legislature failed to ban the practice and also approved the Voter Protection Act to protect the initiative process. And in 1994, Arizona voters approved a citizen initiative banning the use of leghold traps, again after the Legislature failed to act on similar legislation.
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    PROP 109

    Tony: We never see the Republic, nor the Arizona Daily Star for that matter. I was in Greer until just a couple of weeks ago, and saw nothing about Prop. 109 on TV or in the White Mountain Independent. My only exposure to it came through the internet. I am never surprised at the lack of understanding by the average sportsmen about wildlife management or how and why regulations come about. I could elaborate, but I won't. Bill Quimby
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    PROP 109

    A good piece, Tony. Too bad it didn't get published because it might have given us a few more votes. My reason for starting this thread was to point out that the defeat of Proposition 109 could bring us some big problems from the groups you mentioned and others. I am surprised that they haven't yet said that Arizona's voters have spoken: we have no right to hunt or fish. Just wait, though, it is coming. If another effort to guarantee our hunting and fishing rights is ever mounted again, the backers darned sure better make certain it is well organized, well planned, and well funded. A second loss at the polls would be disastrous. Bill Quimby
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    PROP 109

    Tony, and all: After nearly 30 years of working at a daily newspaper, including about a dozen years when I was a full member of its editorial page board, I feel qualified to pass on a few tips on getting your message printed in newspapers: 1. Submit only 75 or fewer words (this note is more than 400 words). An old rule of thumb for a letter to the editor is, "if you can't write it in longhand on a postcard, you're trying to say too much." Although a paper may publish longer letters, you improve your odds if your letter is short enough to fill an unplanned "hole" when the letters section is being "built." 2. One thought is enough, and it must be unique. Cliches such as "when guns are outlawed..." won't get you published. 3. Don't get carried away by your passion. Stay calm, and never, ever attack the publication if you want your letter to be chosen over the hundreds it receives every week. As for "op-ed" pieces, one way to stand out above the huge number of people who want a newspaper to provide them podiums is to telephone the editorial page editor. If you can get to her or him, be prepared to say in a few words what you want to say and why you are qualified to say it. If you do get a commitment, ask how many words your piece should be (it probably will be 700 to 900 words) and then edit and edit and edit what you write until it does not exceed that length. You also need to be respond quickly and be timely. Three or four days is a long time when responding to something that appeared in a daily publication, and five days is too long. Readers (and editors) are fickle and have short memories. Again, stay focused (two thoughts should be enough; four are too many) and positive. If your piece is published, be sure to call the editorial page editor to say thanks, then follow your call with a letter saying the same thing. Include your business card with the letter and suggest that the editorial board call you to "get the other side" when a similar issue arises. Believe it or not, a publication wants to present both sides -- if for no other reason than controversy sells papers. Most editors, though, want to be "fair and balanced," to quote a Fox News motto, even though it is impossible for many of them. Bill Quimby
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    Huge Bucks

    I've been hunting Coues deer off and on since I moved from Yuma to Tucson to attend the UA in September 1954 -- more than 56 years ago. That makes me an ol' timer, of course, and I can tell you that there were a heck of a lot more people hunting these little deer then than are hunting them now. Heck, nearly as many Coues deer were killed year after year in those days as our permit-only system allows to go hunting today. There was only one season, a long one, and an unlimited number of tags were sold every year. We could hunt Rocky Mountain mule deer up north and, if unsuccessful, hunt the next couple of weeks down south for whitetails or desert mule deer with the same tag. Just as now, there were some really big Coues whitetail bucks killed by the "ol' timers." The difference is today's dumb emphasis on antler size and the way photos of really big bucks are so quickly broadcast around via the internet. I remember a time when my father-in-law and I helped a couple of guys whose truck had broken down in the Galliuros. We gave them and their two deer a ride to Willcox, where they lived. I knew Ed Stockwell and saw the mount of his record buck many times, and one of those bucks we transported to Willcox seemed to me as big as Stockwell's. As far as I know, that head from the Galliuros was never recorded anywhere. In those days, before I outgrew my "trophy" phase, I saw dozens of record-class Coues whitetail racks hanging on barns and in carports that were never recorded. The average hunter had never heard of the Boone & Crockett Club or its record books. As for the SCI and B&C measurement systems, the only difference is that SCI has a lower minimum and does not deduct points for non-symmetry. An SCI net score is a B&C gross score. Bill Quimby
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