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If I remember right my hoyt katera 70lbs 28" draw chrono'd at 280 with the Easton axis 340s. It's been a long time since I chrono'd it but I know I was definitely under 300. Axis 340's topped with 100 grain montec from that bow passed through two bull elk and a 200 pound feral pig

I can't imagine anyone giving up a kiabab deer tag to shoot a cow or small bull elkI think he meant and an elk. As in if they see one they can take it. Not give up the deer tag. well he did make a point to capitalize the word or

I can't imagine anyone giving up a kiabab deer tag to shoot a cow or small bull elk

I didn't see that link, he sure was wrong on that one. Has the monuments designated by any president since Clinton affected grazing? My understanding is that none of the Obama designations have affected grazing.

can you point to where he was wrong regarding the facts?

There is always a lot of misinformation thrown around in any discussion involving national monuments. Here's a link to a good article by field and stream about national monuments. http://www.fieldandstream.com/sportsmans-view-national-monuments

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Me and my brother were both thinking right about there. The pic was taken in late September last year so he survived the hunts. He's so far up in the Pines that I doubt my brother will want to hunt him, but we're gonna see if we can find him again to evaluate him incase he makes a big jump in size.

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I hunted 4b twice with family members, 05&06. Unless it starts consistently pumping out ungodly large bulls I don't care to see the unit during elk season again. The two most disappointing elk hunts I've ever been on, to this day bringing up 4b is the quickest way to start a fight with my dad and he didn't even have a tag. That being said as with any unit in the state it holds big bulls but it will take hard work and/or luck to get it done.

I wish I had gotten a pic at the same magnification to compare apples to apples but the swaro pic is at 60x and the meopta is at 70x. The difference was more obvious in person, these pics were holding my phone up to the scopes by hand

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Had the non hd swarovski and the meopta set up side by side from about 5 til dark. The meopta is definitely impressive and blows away the swaro at 10x higher magnification.

My Spotter came in today. Pretty happy so far except I didn't realize with the cabelas variant the eyepiece is not removable. Oh well for the price I paid I'm not too concerned. I weighed them and my old scale shows the cabelas is just barely heavier than the swaro, not even really noticeable.

If you're not against buying used keep an eye out for the cabelas instinct euro hd and the nightforce ts-82. They are both the same meopta s2 spotter just rebranded. I found the cabelas branded version for 1400 on ebay.

We need to go out and compare these some upcoming weekend. I have the new Vortex Razor 85 and would like to see how it compares side by side to some of these others in the actual outdoors. Maybe we should schedule a Saturday early morning out our way at the base of some mountain range like the San Tans where everyone interested brings their optics and we line them all up side by side and give everyone who comes a chance to look through them and see what they think. Could be a fun little CWT get together. As long as I'm not scouting for my brothers hunt that weekend I could bring a Swarovski ats 80 non-hd and hopefully my cabelas euro if it's here by then.

The one I bought is straight. After owning this ats I doubt I'll ever own another angled spotting scope. It's just too much of a pain for me when switching back and forth between binos and spotter.

Well I decided that I was just gonna stick with my non hd ats then I ended up finding the cabelas branded meopta s2 on ebay for a great deal. Now just gotta wait for it to get here! Thanks everybody for your input!

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Does anybody in the east valley have a lapping bar that they wouldn't mind letting me borrow? Or maybe know where I can buy just the lapping bar and alignment tool? I already have the wheeler scope mounting kit but it only has the 1" lapping bar.

Those are the hopi hunts. In the regs they don't have a hunt number

With all due respect to Jay Scott, with his business/name in the hunting community, I'm my sure he'd say "it sucks butt" even if it did.Exactly, the few reviews I've seen have been from people affiliated with the outdoorsman. Im curious to see what everybody is saying once the product makes its way to the field

Cody Johnson is a great country artist that is still relatively unknown.

That's the way I've always done. On one of my mom's elk hunts we had cow elk literally stick their heads in and never actually spook. On my elk hunt two years ago I had a couple muley does eating off the front of the blind and never spooked.