JVS

Near Safford. I can mail it if needed.

I have a black clamp brake from Witt machine. Worked great. My 7mag had very little recoil. It will fit any caliber smaller than 7mm as well. Just make sure the barrel outside dimensions are .625 at the end and .632 1.5” up the barrel. I threaded and went with a suppressor on my tikka, so no longer need the brake. I’d like to get $65 for it. They sell for $78 by Witt, plus shipping and taxes (govt theft).

It will be one early rifle bull tag. I got three separate charges of $135. One of which only had one choice as early rifle bull. Either way, we got an early rifle bull!!!!

Thanks. Definitely congrats on tags...but if we can decipher whether multiple applicants on the same app are charged separate or together will tell me contrats....or holy mother of all that's holy we got lucky and drew an early rifle bull. I recall they are charged all at once based on others' experiences. Can anyone confirm? I've been researching and can't find the answer.

I never put in more than 1 applicant on the same app. I did this year. Do those applicants in the same app that are drawn together get charged together or separate? Because if they are charged together, there is no other possibility than we got an early rifle bull tag!!!!

I can see the commercial now...."if you or a loved one was affected by the Game and Fish draw, you are entitled to compensation. Symptoms of Game and Fish Draw trauma include: PTSD, shortness of breath, headaches, sleeplessness and irritability.

More like a $H!T box

I hear ya on that...but the easy hunts such as the units 32, 29, 35, etc. could be easier to draw if a long-timer had an additional BP. BPs are not just for the BP pass. Each applicant is awarded a draw number for each BP for the 1-2 and 3-5 rounds. Lowest randomly drawn numbers get the tags.

I say G&F implements another loyalty point for anyone that has applied 10 years. I think the consecutive years is a bit frustrating....miss one year and you lose your loyalty BP. Anyhow, give the folks that have been doing this for a lifetime an additional advantage. I haven't seen the statistics, but I'd imagine about half of the applicants have less than 10 years applying.

OK - could the rumor about charging cards in phases (BP round, then 1-2 choices then 3-5) be true? A lot of people are saying that their groups have multiple apps in for 100% draw hunts and no one has drawn. Something is definitely funky. I have 4 separate apps in areas with 100% draw odds in queue and I don't have a hit. Go ahead and shoot down that theory...but what else is there?

But...one this is certain with AZGFD...and that is uncertainty.

Cards hit the day after card updates for Elk/Antelope, correct?

And, as previously said by someone…g&F will see their money tenfold??? I’m not seeing how game and fish gets any money back for paying youtubers? It’s tag and license sales, right? All tags are sold…Every year. OTC sales are the extra dollars. If we have to draw now for some archery units, we’re selling too many tags already. Now all the OTC tag holders will end up in no-draw units, overcrowding those areas. I think most of us understand the Tragedy of the commons!! We don’t need more recruitment for OTC tag sales! Go to Arkansas! I think the limit is 9 deer. Arizona isn’t a bottomless pit of deer.

The tags are sold! Every. Single. Year. Why are game and fish (we) paying for advertisement to sell tags? There is already a shortage. Good ol boy system at its finest. And yes, we all ought to take note as to how many of these youtubers get tags year after year. My clan sure can’t anymore!