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Personally I believe a 223 is more ethical than a bow and arrow any day. With proper bullet choice and shot placement you shouldn't have a problem. With a sharp stick shot from a string even with a perfect shot the animal almost always runs off to die a slower death than a well placed small caliber bullet. Just my opinion.

I have built quite a few savages with Boyds stocks and all of them have been drop in ready to go stocks. The only place you really need to watch is the tang area. Savages prefer their tang to be floated some light sanding may be needed in this area but it is quick and simple. Pillar and glass bed for best results. The light weight laminate from Boyds only weighs 2.5 pounds.

Both are great scopes but I think you get the most bang for your buck with the viper. If I remember right the Nikon has 1/8 clicks while the viper has 1/4 clicks. I much prefer the 1/4 clicks on a hunting rig over the 1/8.

The Amax is what I was referring to. They say not recommended for hunting but I have read they performed very similar to the bergers, since that's not what your after it doesn't matter. Even still a 140 nosler will retain more energy and drift less in the wind over the 130 at extended ranges.

H4831 should also run well in that case. Also the 140 class bullets are just more of a good thing. B.C in the .600s with bergers and hornadys.

If you can crush a aluminum arrow shaft by torqueing a screw driver you are tightening way to much.

A nice compromise is the hornady Amax bullets I can get the 105s to stabalize and shoot really well in my 22" savage with a 9.25 twist. I'm running 42 grains of 4350 in mine with half moa accuracy at 100 yards. I have not yet Chronographed them.

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I pulled the oct 31 hunt.1108 3rd choice

The 06 will definitely get the job done. For long range work your biggest enemy regardless of caliber will be wind. The 06 will drift about 19 inches at 500 and 92 inches at 1000 with a 168 at 2900fps. A 6.5-06 will drift 13 inches at 500 and 63 inches at 1000 with a 140 at 2950 and also hit with about 200 pounds more energy at 1000 over the 30 cal. If you are going to be serious about long range hunting and be ethical pick a caliber and bullet that will get you there flatter faster and with more energy. Just about any 6.5/260 caliber will out shoot the 30-06 at long range.

For no more than 500 yards the 7-08 will do nicely.

The 260 Rem provides a slight increase in performance over the creedmore and the 47 with all the added benefits of easily made and affordable brass and reloading dies.

Most of my rifles like them seated right around 25 thou off the lands. I have one that prefers them just touching the lands.

I have built two 6.5-284s and both were easily capable of 3000 fps. The sweet spot for the Berger VLDs I have found is right around 2950 however and holds true for both 6.5-284s and my .260 Ackley. The hornady Amax and Sierras performed best for me at velocities above that. Typically with VLD style bullets groups at 100 are not that great and especially so with the longer 6.5 bullets the reason being that they need a little more time to settle down and stabilize. The powders that have given me the best results as far as accuracy and velocity are H4831Sc, H4350 and Ramshot Hunter.

I know this is an old thread but here is my two cents. I have owned and built several 6.5 and personally prefer the 260AI over any of them. The 6.5wsm is cool but uses double the powder and recoil to out run the ackley by 180fps. Personally i would rather have the more efficient cartridge over the overbore one. The 6.5-284 and 6.5-06 are also great calibers that perform very near to the 6.5wsm without using near as much powder. My ackley runs at 2950 with 44 grains H4831sc with room for more while my 6.5wsm ran 3130fps using 67.5 grains of Retumbo both using 26" barrels and 140 bullets. The 6.5-284 is a true 3000fps cartridge while using around 49 grains of powder. Just food for thought.

Yeah i was on my phone and didnt notice the thread had two pages.

A properly installed quality pad will look just as good with that wood stock as the metal but plate. A medium grind to fit pachmyr f250 pad should do nicely and look good too.

Drill out the action screw holes with a 3/8" drill and use aluminum arrow shafts as your pillars. Mark the shafts where you need to cut and then file flush with the stock so that it fits evenly. The rear pillar will need to be grooved to allow the trigger mechanism to have proper clearance and function properly. There is lots of help and knowledge over on the Savage shooters forum.

I would suggest a savage in 260 remington. Plenty of horse power at long range and less recoil than the 308. Using 140 grain bullets it will shoot flatter and drift less in the wind than the 06 and provide the performance and accuarcy needed for coues deer hunting.

Make sure to keep the tang floated on that savage. Do not bed any farther back than the trigger guard. Savages shoot best with the tang and barrel floated. You do not want to bed the entire action length like a Remington. Just trying to save you some greif if you decide to do it yourself.

Give me a bullet that dumps all of its energy into the animal any day over one that passes through especially with these little coues deer.

I built one on a savage with a 28" barrel and found that it really wouldnt do anything above and beyond a 6.5-284 except use a bunch more powder to do it. It shot great and it looked cool as heck but i sold it and went with the 260 ackley and haven't looked back. 140 grain berger at 2960 while only using 44 grains of H4831sc is hard to beat.

To many guns to shoot would sure be a nice problem to have.

Try the david tubb fire lapping system and see if that cleans it up any.

Ive never been able to get the bergers to group well at 100. Check the tang and make sure it is floated as well make sure you can slip a dollar bill all the way around the rear of the action.