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I predicted the BCs to be somewhere around what the Amax is offering as they both have the same bullet design and polymer tip. Sounds like I wasn't to far off. I knew there was no way they were getting 80-90 points higher than a berger just by looking at them. I hate the way Nosler calculates BC.

Practice practice practice. Practice from different shooting positions different angles and different ranges. Practice in adverse weather conditions in the cold in the hot in the windy in the calm. All the best equipment in the world won't make any difference if you don't practice with it and get to know the rifle. Putting the bullet where its supposed to go is more important than anything else.

On a site where 80% of the guys/gals won't shoot past 500 yards and of the 20% that do maybe only half have put in the work to be consistent at that 500+ yard ranges what's the point of talking about 1000 yard performance? The same point that makes the same 80% on this site shoot a 300 win mag or larger to harvest an 85 pound deer. If 500 yards or less is as far people are going to shoot then why don't they all shoot a 243.

This much is true. But only looking to 500 yards doesn't give a clear picture of cartridge overall performance. Pretty much any common medium game centerfire cartridge provides enough energy to make things dead at 500 yards especially these little coues deer. I know there are not varying degrees of death but there is indeed varying degrees of cartridge performance.

If you reload I wouldn't say that it is any more expensive than the 7mm mag or 300 mag to shoot. Factory ammo though probably is more expensive than the others for no other reason than it is not as popular as the others. I have no doubt that you would love the rile and the caliber but if cost to shoot is a major concern then you may be better off with a more popular factory cartridge. The .25-06, 270 Win, and .30-06 are all great calibers and work well for just about anything. If you want flat shooting lots of energy and a lot less wind drift, then the .264 Mag is very hard to beat. I dont know how much you are willing to pay for this rig but keep in mind that you could build a tack driving custom savage with match grade barrel and a fancy stock of your choice for right around a grand. Brand new and in any caliber you choose. It may not win any beauty contests but it will shoot well within the standards of that custom piece your looking at and best of all the work could all be done by you. No need for a smith with a savage.

And what they hit don't run off. Thats why I like em.

Generally guns retain their value pretty well regardless of caliber as long as they are not beat up. It sounds like a very nice set up and you should be well pleased with the caliber choice even though its not overly popular. Are you picking this up used?

There's about 420 ft lbs more energy with a 140 out of the 6.5 at 1000 yards and about 31" less wind drift when comparing a 130 berger at 3000fps for the 270 and a 140 berger at 3100 out of the 264 win mag. At 500 yards the windage and elevation are much closer but energy is still greatly in favor of the 264.

Can you post a link I can't find anything on the game and fish site about leftovers at all.

No tag for me. Going to try and snag a left over.

Nice rifle and in a great caliber.

Its a post 64 so not control feed. No feeding issues at all though everything works fine. As far as hot loads go Im just starting to see slightly cratered primers at 59 grains. Easy bolt lift and extraction and primer pockets remain good and tight.

It was really good to start with. I didn't touch anything but the barrel.

I clean after every shot for the first 20 then after every 5 for the next 30 during break in. After that I don't clean until accuracy falls off which is a different number depending on caliber, barrel, bullet and powder used. As a rule I try to clean every 150 rounds or so.

Great rifles. I have the wood stock version and it will print half inch groups at 75 yards with CCI maxi mags. That is a jack rabbit bustin some buck right there.

But I seen a picture of the groups your getting with that rifle. I bet that brought a tear due to a different emotion.

I need at least 50 new unfired cases I don't care what brand. Can't seem to find any available at the usual sources. Thanks.

I need new unfired. I cross posted on a few forums and I got some on the way. Thanks anyways.

The Amax has performed for me very well out of my 6.5-284 but my other 6.5s don't seem to like them as well as the bergers. Brian litz had an article in the varmint hunter where he tested various hunting bullets and said the Amax was one of the slickest in the business but was one of only a few hornady bullets tested that was under estimated. I made a PDF copy of the article if anyone wants it shoot me an pm with an email address. Very interesting read.

You can probably find a good load with those primers just start low and work up. If you are not happy with the results you can try a different primer and see if that settles it down. I have always had really good results with 25-06 with magnum primers and 4831. Very similar case capacities and charge weights with the 6.5-284.

Agree H4831 is a great powder for the 6.5-284. Mine loves it as well with two accuracy nodes. One at 44 grains with a velocity of 2820 and one at 51.5 at 2980 fps. H4350 also works pretty good and put me over 3000fps with 52 grains but the accuracy wasn't quite as good. R17 gave great results at 100 yards with good ES & SDs but I couldn't get it to hold that accuracy past 300 yards. Still not sure why on that one. If I had to pick one powder for that cartridge though it would be H4831 great accuracy and good velocity.

Don't really need to. The 6.5-284 is really pretty mild I would make sure and get a stock that's comfortable and fits you well and call it good.

1:8 twist all the way. With a 1:8 you should have no problem shooting any bullet you want to even the light stuff should shoot fine. 140s in a 9 twist can be done but is better suited with higher velocity. My 6.5-06 Ackley has a 9 twist and runs the 140s fine but they are leaving the muzzle a touch over 3100 fps.

I wouldn't go any shorter than 26" but that's just me. I feel 26" provides all the length you need to get great performance out of the cartridge and is still manageable in the field.

Personally I wouldn't take a hot rod cartridge like the 6.5-284 and chop its nuts off along with the barrel. If you really want a 6.5 cartridge in a shorter barrel the 6.5x47, creedmoor or the 260 Remington would probably be better suited for that. Not sure if savage offers those calibers in that set up or not but that's my opinion.