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No the easy way to tell is take the rifle out of the stock. If the magazine box is attached to the action it is a staggered feed. If the magazine box stays in the stock it is a center feed. I still have both versions available.

Green stock SPF to kazpilot25

OK here is what I had squirreled away. Two on the left are short action center feed stocks $25 for the black one and $35 for the black one with silver webbing. The olive green with black webbing is a long action center feed asking $40 for that one SPF. The one on the right is from a pawn shop donor rifle long action staggered feed it has been used and has some Knicks and scratches in it but nothing real serious. Asking $20 bucks for this one SPF. All prices plus shipping. Interested parties please post in thread which one you want then pm me with shipping and payment info. Thanks.

I rarely get to the valley so shipping works best for me. I might have a staggered feed stock someplace, like I said I've got a few squirled away I will have to go through them and see what I have and list them here.

I've got plenty of stocks. This one is for a center feed action but from what I understand some light work with a dremel on the magazine area will allow for the staggered to work. I think I have 3 more synthetic stocks around. I am located in safford

Length of barrel and type of primers used is probably the least important information in a load manual. Doesn't matter what barrel length they tested loads in all that matters is what length of barrel you have. Same with primers. Just because a load manual says they used a federal 210 primer doesnt mean thats the only primer you can use. All loads should be worked up slowly and safely regardless of what the data says.

Sounds like the chamber needs polished and also inspect your extractor. Sometimes there can be some brass built up in there that causes it not to work properly and cause extraction issues.

As far as recoil goes. The 260 Remington 6.5 creedmoor and 6.5x47 all have about the same case capacity and recoil very similar to the 243. The 6.5-284 has a bit more kick I would say closer to the 7-08 than the 308. The standard 6.5-06 is essentially the same as the 6.5-284 but the Ackley version kicks it up a notch with recoil very similar to the 270 win. Of course all this depends on stock shape rifle weight and type of recoil pad used. A good recoil pad can effectively reduce recoil by a good margin.

A 6.5 gives you everything your looking for. Absolutely great long range ballistics and really not a whole lot of recoil with any of them. Since you have a long action I would go with a long action chambering to maximize performance. The 6.5-284 is a great caliber with forgiving recoil and like sjvcon said the 6.5-06AI is just bad a$$ and produces recoil very similar to the 270. The 6.5 creedmoor and 260 Remington are fantastic cartridges as well but are really out classed by the larger 6.5s. The 25-06 is a fantastic cartridge as well and will provide everything your looking for as well. People always say that the 25s lack bullet options but you can get bullets as light as 70 grains up to 120 grains which is really all you need to tackle the game you intend to hunt. I have found the 25s to kill with great authority despite there relatively light bullet weights. As far as deer go I feel the 25 is probably the ideal cartridge with its high velocity and reasonable ballistic performance. Yes there are better calibers and cartridges out there but its 25s and 6.5s for me.

+1 to what gut pile has said. I'm betting on headspace issue if splitting or cracking new brass like that.

This is from loaddata.com / Hodgdon data I have a berger manual but I'm stuck at work. H-1000 = 67.0 H-4831 = 60.5 These are max loads.

In my experience they are no more damaging than any other bullet. In fact maybe less so as they fragment and destroy the internals rather than poke through and ruin meat on both sides. But these coues deer are small critters and you will probably get an exit regardless of bullet choice especially if shot from a magnum.

500-600 is a piece of cake for an 06. But you really need to reload or find someone that does to help you find a load tuned to your rifle. With proper load work up that rifle should give you consistent half inch groups. The option to build a semi custom rig is also a good idea but you will still need to have your ammo tuned to your rifle. A match grade barrel will not necessarily ensure small groups. It will probably help but its far from absolute. Its all about harmonics and consistency and finding the right bullet and powder combo is the biggest part. Bed or get the rifle bedded if you can and make sure the barrel is floated and since its a savage the tang needs to be floated as well. Make sure you can get a dollar bill to slide all the way around the safety lever from the bolt to the baffle.

Sold.

I have a like new lightly used Nikon Prostaff 550 range finder. Comes with neoprene protective cover and small enough to fit in a shirt pocket. Works excellent $150 shipped to lower 48. I will accept 6.5 140 grain berger vlds in trade.

Bump.

Also weigh the SSTs for consistency. I have been very unimpressed with the SST quality control. In my experience they have been all over the place on the scale. I have had some be off by two grains or more. The only time I use an SST is for barrel break in.

As you and I both know the B.C. of a bullet can change due to atmospheric conditions, temp and the elevation at which it was tested. The B.C. of a bullet tested last week at one range will not match the B.C. of the same bullet tested next week at a different range. But it will be close and as long as the testing procedures are consistent which I belive they are in Litz case we can get a pretty clear picture of what the actual b.c. of the bullet is. That being said I have two sources where Litz has tested the 162 Amax in 7mm, one in the Winter 2012 Issue of The Varmint Hunter Magazine and the other Being his applied ballisitics book. Both Sources show the actual B.C. being well bellow the published .625. According to my balistics calculator in standard atmospheric conditions the 168 is only producing 139 ft lbs more energy at 1000 yards. Which in my mind doesn't warrant the extra recoil or 8 grains of powder usage. As far as bullet holes go I dont think there is a game animal on the planet that would notice the .02" difference in bullet diameter.

The hornady 162 Amax has a published b.c. of .625 but an actual litz tested b.c. of only .599 not higher than the 6.5mm berger. The 280 Remington pushing a 162-168 at 2700 has about 100 ft lbs more energy at 1000 yards and nearly identical wind drift numbers within 2" as the swede pushing a 140 at 2700. The 280 remington requires about 8 more grains of powder to do so and generates a modest increase in recoil. What it really boils down to is which caliber are you able to reload the easiest as either one is performing at essentially the same level.

Since you reload both calibers will work really well for what you want to do but I would go with the sweed for the simple fact that it is at its best with the heavy 140 bullets. The 280 Remington has great bullet choices but really lacks the case capacity to push the 168-180 grain bullets at a velocity where they would offer better ballistics than the high BC 6.5 bullets. Now since you do reload if you stepped up to the 280 Ackley you would have the performance very similar the 7mm mag and the velocity needed to maximize the potential of the heaver 7mm bullets. Just my opinion. Also why the swede and not one of the more hot rod 6.5 chamberings?

Very nice!

Probably going to need a 20 moa rail or the cheaper route of Burris signature zee rings with inserts to get the 308 to 1000 yards. Your going to need 33-38 moa or there abouts to get to 1000 yards depending on what bullet you will be using.

Just get Burris signature zee rings and never worry about rings again. There is nothing better.

54.0 grains of H4350 has always worked really well for me in a 270 with a 130 grain bullet. 47.5 grains of IMR 4064 is also a pet load for me.

Nice rig.your going to love that caliber. Looks like we frequent all the same forums.