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Thanks Scott.

First I have to Say Thanks to my good friend Paul for getting us into a great area and making this all possible and also a BIG thanks to my brother Trent for helping out on my hunt. Due to some conflicting schedules we were not able to make it out until Thursday evening so we got a late start on the hunt. We Left my place right at 3pm right in the middle of that storm that was moving through the Southern part of the State. The Weather man said it was supposed to break by 4pm and we were counting on that so we didn't have to set camp in the rain. Well for once the Weather man was right on the money and as we pulled into our unit the rain had lightened and the clouds began to break. When we got to our unloading area the rain had ceased and blue sky was peaking through the clouds. As we unloaded the quads and packed our gear we joked that we could possibly see a good buck on our way up the trail into camp. Turn out that's exactly what happened,luck was on our side as we were busting through the brushy bottom of a steep canyon we see deer flagging up the mountain. Paul puts glass on them and immediately says "good buck, the last one is a good buck!" So I bail off the quad and scramble to get my gun out of the scabbard and loaded and to our amazement the buck stopped to look back at us. I asked Trent to call a range as none of us had time to get any of our gear unpacked and he says "dial 300....No 250" I make the adjustment to the scope and take a quick free hand shot. Paul Says "hes hit but hes still moving to the right". I chamber another round and try to steady my nerves and as the buck steps out from behind some bear grass I let another one fly and drop him in his tracks. My hunt was over as soon as it began. My first shot just grazed the bucks back, he was stunned and hurting but I just didn't sever the connection. The second shot was perfect and severed the neck right in front of the shoulders. After the buck was down and our celebration had ended I dug out my range finder and ranged the deer at 257 Yards. Pretty good guess big brother.

4064 is a go to powder for a lot of people in the 06. It works great there it should work great for the 270 and it does. I have found that 54-55gr of H4350 and a 130gr bullet really works well in the 270 as well but I have used 4064 in the past with great success as well.

Imr 4064 works great in the .270. 47.5gr is max load for my rifle showing slightly flattened primers but shoots great with the 130 berger or sierra game king.

Very nice build.

Sounds to me like there is nothing wrong with your rifle. I would definitely get rid of the Bushnell but I wouldn't swap it out for more junk like a viper. Get a leupold and don't look back. If you really want a plastic stock you can find them all day for pretty cheap like less than $50 if you look around. Personally I think you are much better off with the wood, get the rifle bedded make sure the barrel and tang are floated and don't beat it up so much.

I thought it was a good movie. Wish it would have shown more of him in action and correctly portrayed the sniper spotter relationship. I can guarantee his spotter didn't just sit there and BS with him. and I really wish Eastwood would have sprung for a real baby. Boy that scene where he is holding the blatantly obvious fake baby screamed lifetime B movie for me. Other than that I liked it.

The reason we all use something different depends on our rifles as much as the shooters. Rifle barrels have very unique personalities, what my rifle likes another may hate. For example 9 out of 10 of my rifles shoot berger bullets. Why because I feel they maximize the potential of each cartridge by providing better down range performance due to their higher BCs. On that rare occasion I have a rifle that just won't quite shoot as good as I would like it too with a berger I move on too the next best thing which in my opinion is an Amax or match king. It all depends on what the rifle likes most while still providing me with the best down range performance possible. The reason we don't all shoot the same bullet is the same reason we all drive different vehicles. Different strokes for different folks.

+1 to everything 308nut says. It seems we agree on more and more these days. The banding alone on the bullets pictured is huge addition to drag.

All depends on the form factors. Since form factors are determined using boat tail length and angle, ogive length, meplat diameter, radius ratio of ogive and caliber, form factors should be equal for each bullet... until we throw in drag coefficients. Since the actual drag coefficients are very hard to determine we can only compare to the standard G7 projectile. I will assume the since the solid copper bullet has a longer bearing surface than the standard G7 projectile I will also assume that it has a higher drag coefficient and thus a higher form factor and lower BC value although probably not by much.

I don't own a 7mm Mag to try it in and have yet to see any superformance powder on a shelf anywhere locally so no I have not.

Why was velocity only measured with the 300 and drop with the 308? Why not both tests for each cartridge to compare results. Also how are you measuring bullet drop? Are you shooting a group and measuring to the center or only one shot? How accurate are these test rifles with the bullets in question? Are these rifles fired from a machine rest or is there a human element to be accounted for as well?

I recently purchased a ziess victory 1300 for $600 and it has been spectacular. Reflective or non reflective it will range 1300 yards. If you notice most range finders will claim 1300+ on reflective ranges and non reflective ranges will be about half that. This one will range anything you point it at and even further than 1300 yards. My farthest range on a rock has been 1643 yards. I was able to range deer this past year at 1260 with ease. I personally hate all the angle compensation crap and ballistics info in a range finder. Give me the range and let me do the rest. This one has some built in ballistic pre sets but gives you the ability to turn them off. The display is bright and very clear in any light. I have no complaints and it works great.

Well said lance I couldn't agree more. As far as sensitive goes I haven't found bergers to be all that hard to tune. I set mine 25 thou from the lands and do normal load work up.

I'm guessing BC numbers will be revised much lower once longer range testing is completed. For the BC to be that high with a bullet of that weight the form factor will have to be in the 0.77 range. Meaning that these bullets are roughly 23% more aerodynamic than the G7 standard projectile. The best match bullets with the highest BCs have form factors somewhere around 0.97-.98 the math is not working out for me on this.

I prefer the 115 berger. By far the best BC bullet available in 25 cal and excellent terminal performance.

I prefer a shilen # 4 or # 5 Contour 26" . They seem to give a great balance of weight and accuracy.

Another vote for the leupold vxII or Redfield. You could always get on eBay and pick up an old Redfield accu trac that would fit with the old school very nicely.

I keep saying the trick for bergers to work every time is to hit bone, especially in these big magnum cartridges and heavy bullets. This is what I try to do and haven't had a failure or animal run off yet.

Going to be a shoulder mount.

Thanks for all the kind words and yeah he's a pretty buck for sure. He's going to look good on the wall too.

Shoot was blast despite the weather thanks for the idea and the help getting it organized.

Not enough difference for me to tell a difference but a lot of that has to do with stock design, fitment and of course the quality and type of recoil pad.

Bergers work best when tuned for your rifle. If that HSM stuff shoots good in your rifle though there is not a better bullet made.

If you want to shoot light weight bullets as in 55-70 grains get a 22-250. If you don't care about pelts then either the 243 or creedmoor will work great as a dual purpose hunter. The creedmoor gets my vote as a 140gr bullets work equally well on coyotes to elk. The creed covers more ground than the others listed and recoil is very light for the performance you get.