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Sam's rifle is a 12 twist and they shoot great at 3000ft elevation when pushed at 3440fps. That being said what kind of accuracy and bullet are you shooting in the 243wssm? I would work on tuning a good load with a 95-105gr berger depending on what twist you have. Heavier bullets and higher BC with the 243 will provide better wind drift numbers and hopefully less misses at longer range. The 53gr vmax is a great bullet but it will be pushed in the wind.I started my nephew with the 53s as they shot really well too but we moved to the 69gr sierras and scores improved greatly and again even more so with the new tipped match kings. Since you can't shoot the 69gr class bullets I really think the 243wssm offers the best performance.

Savage is known for out of the box accuracy and the axis is no exception. Trigger can be easily fixed with just a couple clips of the spring and bring the pull weight down to 3lbs or less or an aftermarket rifle basix trigger can be had for less than $100. Calibers can be easily changed as well in the future if you so choose and be done yourself without the wait and cost of a smith.

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Every rifle is different so what yours likes may be totally different than someone else's. I would not shoot less than 180s out of it as you have a magnum might as well get all you can out of it. 210-230 berger is what I would use.

Spend the extra $100 bucks and get a Leupold VX3. Much better scope for the money and you wont have to send it off to get fixed. The first thing you hear every Vortex owner say is "they have an awesome warranty". The reason they say this is because they have used it. Vortex scopes are nothing more than over priced boat anchors as far as I am concerned. Not good for much else. This scene from Tommy Boy pretty well sums up Vortex Optics and their Warranty. https://youtu.be/mEB7WbTTlu4 Not sure how to post you tube links, hope this works.

With a 300 win mag step up to the 190 or 210 grain LRAB to take full advantage of the cartridge. I wish I could go with a bigger grain but I can't. I have an A-Bolt Browning in 300 wm and the detachable magazine FROM the factory is so short I can't load a longer bullet. It either won't fit into it or its so tight it will flatten the nose of bullet when shooting. Don't have any idea what the he ll Browning was thinking when the designed this. I tried to adjust bullet depth when I first got it so the round was closer to the lands trying to get better accuracy and that's when I discovered the problem. I have loaded 180's but I have to watch how far I seat them. Just seat the bullet to mag length and tune your load from there. Yeah you loose a little case capacity and velocity but you more than make up for it in retained velocity, wind drift and energy at longer range due to the heavier bullet. Seating to mag length is the name of the game with most magnums and heavy bullets if you want it to be a repeater hunting rifle. Just because the bullet has a lot of jump does not mean it won't be accurate.

This makes sense. Litz tested G1 BC for the 168 LRAB is .624 while the Berger G1 BC is .617. At 800 yards with all things being equal there should be about an inch difference between the two in drop.

Wow great deal on some awesome glass. Good luck on the sale.

I sure don't. Ive got data where he has tested just about every thing but the .284 cal Scenar. Given the fact that Lapua has recently upgraded the way they do their ballistics testing with dopler radar to determine very precise drag coefficients along the bullets trajectory I would say that their advertised numbers are very close. Doing some quick calcs with the Lapua 180gr in 7mm I come up with a drag coefficient of .963 to achieve the advertised G7 BC of .331 which is very believable. The Formula: 180/7000 = .0257 .0257/.284 squared = .3188 (Sectional Density) .3188/0.963 (Drag Coefficient) = .331 G7 BC

Try not even close. .625 advertised vs .543 Litz measured actual. The .277 150 is actually the most over estimated over any of the new long range accubonds.

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The Barnes bullets are pure copper resulting in a longer length for a given weight and more bearing surface. Add all that together and you got yourself more fouling.

Most impressive group there lance. Did you do any break in on the barrel at all? only reason I ask is that when breaking in a barrel I have seen groups with similar results with groups starting around an inch and end up about half that with the same bullet and load by the time break in is over. I have a large target with multiple aiming points and I will start shooting from right to left top to bottom and literally watch each group shrink in size from dot to dot.

Not near enough gun. Only a .338 Lapua with 300 grain bullets is capable of taking elk outside of bow range. Just kidding, a 7mm Mag and 150s is more than plenty to tackle elk. Good luck on the hunt.

Not shooting one but I am sure it would work great. Brass for the WSSM cases are getting quite difficult to find these days, if you don't already have a supply of brass you might look into the 6XC for another option. Brass is easily made from .22-250 cases and definitely different.

+1 lance we have all had animals that should have dropped dead on impact but the truth is that's not always the case. Heavens knows I have seen some coyotes run off deader than heck with a hole through them big enough to see through and others drop like a rock on the spot.

I am a firm believer in hitting bone with the Bergers especially on a small coues, gives the bullet something to work with and allows it to open up like its supposed to. They are designed to open up 2-5" after penetration, that can be 3/4 of the way through a coues deer before it even starts to open up if hitting soft tissue. The way I look at it is if I hit shoulder bone and for some reason have a bullet failure I still have an animal with a broken shoulder and he's not going far.

By the looks of that shot placement I would have to chalk that deer living so long up to sheer will to live. I would try the bergers again before writing them off completely because of one incident.

I'm with lance. 115 berger is the best there is. By far the best ballistics of any 25 cal bullet made and awesome terminal performance. Prairie dogs to elk the 25-06 and the 115 berger got you covered.

Second Amendment sports had tons of primers when I was there last weekend. Powder was pretty sparse except for IMR 4064. Sportsmans didn't have anything other than IMR7828, IMR4895 and H50BMG. Again this was all last weekend so things could have changed but I struck out. Good luck.

Fact of the matter is velocity probably plays the smallest role when it comes to stabilization. Its all about the length and shape of the bullet. The more stable a bullet is the more optimized the B.C. and while velocity does help its only a small percentage when compared to other factors that determine the stability of a bullet. Temperature and elevation are much bigger factors than velocity. For example, using Bergers twist rate calculator and running the numbers for the 230gr Match Hybrid in standard conditions being 59 degress at sea level the stability factor is 1.51 at 2650fps and only 1.64 at 3400fps. Run these numbers again at 75 degress and at 3000 feet elevation and you get a stability factor of 1.74 at 2650fps and 1.89 at 3400fps a much bigger difference. This particular bullet is still stable down to 1000fps with a stability factor of 1.1 in standard conditions but the B.C. is reduced by 12%

Seems to me you already got it figured out. The .25-06 worked fine last time why not use it again. No need to reinvent the wheel or waste money. If you really just want to spend money upgrade the optics.

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Chances are the bullet isn't the problem. Have you tried a different powder or primers? Is the rifle bedded and barrel floated? In my experience if the bullets in the green box (Sierra) don't shoot you got a problem somewhere. If given the choice though I will always choose a Berger over anything else.

The two deer I have seen them used on exited but massive internal damage was done. One deer took three steps the other fell where he stood.