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If the hunter doesn't care about down range energy, retained velocity for proper expansion or minimized wind drift you are exactly right. We all know this just isn't the case other wise people wouldn't be hunting Elk with .338 Lapuas.

Yep and it sold quick. Sorry.

I have no interest in catching anybody, hunting isn't a competition except between you and the animal. Congratulations on making some long range shots good for you, they still would have been easier to do with a higher BC bullet. I understand that a high bc doesn't make a hunting bullet but the fact remains that there are some outstanding very high BC hunting bullets on the market right now. Not using the highest BC heaviest bullet that your rifle will shoot is leaving something on the table especially when talking about the big .30 cals and the ever-present possibility of a long shot. Shoot what you want I don't care, I am only trying to explain why I would choose to shoot a high BC heavy bullet and the advantages of doing so.

Much easier to do with a good BC. Try it sometime. It's like throwing a frisbee in the wind or a football in the wind, one of them flies way better in the wind than the other.

Let me guess, not one of them killed at over 400 yards where a good BC even comes into play. I will be the first to say Elk can be killed with just about anything, I am not a proponent of magnum calibers at all but if there is chance that I might have an opportunity at a quality bull at extended ranges I would make sure I had the equipment and practice under my belt to make the shot and make it count. A better BC minimizes mistakes made by the shooter in wind estimation and helps ensure a hit. Take for example a hunter had an actual 13mph wind cross wind but only estimated a 10mph wind. A heavy for caliber high BC bullet may be off a couple inches from the point of aim and still result in a vital hit where as a light weight lower BC bullet may produce a less than ideal hit or complete miss in the same 3mph wind miscalculation.

The Berger has a BC .058 higher than the Litz Measured .633 for the 208 Amax. Both great bullets.

Depending on cartridge, I have Berger HVLDs and Hybrids (and SMKs too) shoot very well from .010" to .150" off the lands. No need to jam them. Unless that is what your gun likes. Totally agree. I only have one rifle that prefers the Bergers jammed in the lands and thats the Wife's bench gun 6mmBR. Everyhtnig else seems to like .025" off the lands.

If you're going to shoot a magnum make it worth while and shoot the heaviest highest ballistic coefficient bullet possible and maximize the potential. Lance has already said it but the heavy Bergers are where it's at with the .300s. Since you made the comment about not having to touch the lands to make them shoot well I am going to assume you are not a Berger fan. The 215 Hybrids are much easier to tune and are absolutely devastating on game.

Cleaning out the gun room of stuff I don't need, located in Safford. 1: Shilen Select Match Stainless 6.5x47 Lapua barrel for Remington Model 700. 24" long 8 twist sporter contour. Round count unknown but rifling still looks great. SPF 2: Remington 700 .270 Take off barrel, this one is well used but crown and rifling still look good. $50 Shipped 3: Weatherby Mark V Standard .22-250 Take off. Used unknown round count SPF. 4: 77 Pieces of Winchester .223 WSSM brass 40 pieces once fired and 33 twice fired that have been full length sized and ready to load. SPF 5: RCBS Full length sizer and Seater die .223 WSSM like new. $40.00 6: New Nosler 6.5 Creedmoor brass. 15 once fired and 35 new primed with CCI LR primers ready to load. $70 Shipped. 7: Assortment of new and used Savage factory takeoff barrels .22-250, .270, 7mm Mag, .308, .30-06. $60 for new barrels $40 for used, Shipped. Items are cross posted so first PM by time stamp wins.

7mm barrel & WSSM brass sold.

Weatherby Barrel SPF. .270 barrels gone as well. .30-06's, 7mm Mag still available.

At first no. I had the .25-06 sold over on Savage shooters first then the buyer backed out. So yeah CJ is next in line for it and we are currently discussing purchase details. The 6.5x47 sold in a matter of minutes over on long range hunting unfortunately for CJ. Savage .270 barrels sold pending funds.

.25-06 savage barrel and 6.5x47 barrel SPF

New Savage .308 Takeoff is SPF. .22-250, .25-06, .270's, .30-06's and 7mm Mag still available.

Dang! Ruger makes a beautiful rifle! Good luck on the sale.

Wow that 183 is an impressive looking bullet. Nice shooting lance and beautiful rifle.

Yes, they should interchange but if I remember correctly the long range hunter has metal magazine frame and mag box while the standard model 111 will more than likely be plastic. Depends on what particular model of 111 as they made them both ways. You can order either plastic or metal magazine frame and box from Savage. He will need to get a liability release form from Savage before they will sell him the parts. The plastic frame and assembly runs around $26 while the metal assembly runs about $100 more than that if I remember correctly. Check over on the Savage Shooters forum under the FAQ page for part numbers and serial numbers for each model you are looking at.

24" or 26" for me as well. Look at the lady hunter for a light weight rifle option and a 22" barrel. I just finished putting together a savage built on a lady hunter stock with a 24" barrel and topped it off with a Leupold VX2 6-18x40 and the whole thing weighs right at 8 pounds sling included. She loves it, and with the shorter length of pull and higher comb it fits her perfectly.

The really nice thing about the Creedmoor is that there is high-quality match grade ammo available at very decent prices and for the most part, is very easy to find on the shelf. You may not find it on small mom & pop shelves but pretty much any big box store carries the stuff. When loaded with 140gr bullets the 6.5 creed will do absolutely anything the 7-08 will with a bit less recoil.

Should work perfectly as it is a long action. Barrel changes are very easy to do but I recommend getting all the proper tools necessary like a barrel vise and action wrench as it makes the job much easier and I can promise this will not be your last build.

Looking for a lightly used or new take off for a Savage small shank action or a reamer so I can make my own.

Which Boyds stock do you have? They make a bunch of stocks of varying styles and weights. The lightweight thumbhole doesn't weight a whole lot if you like thumbholes.

Wow very nice! I will be waiting to hear your reports on the 6.5's are you planning on doing any BC verification?

Hey I know those guys too. Great bucks guys! You should post pictures of the exit wound in the Berger Failed me Horribly thread. It's absolutely incredible what that 215 Berger did at 720 Yards on that Mule Deer.

Shot great. Thanks again. I will get some bullets coming soon enough. Thanks though.