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This one was made in Turkey.

The Federal Premium loaded with 168gr Sierra Game King.

Also needs to compare other high bc bullet designs in 7mm to his high bc .308. There are far better offerings in that weight class from Hornady let alone other bullet brands than the SST or the interlock. .308 155 Sierra TMK = .464 (Litz) .284 150 Nosler ABLR = .576 (Litz) .284 162 Amax = .599 (Litz) .284 162 ELDX = .630 .284 162 ELDM = .652 .284 160 Sierra TMK = .600 .284 168 Berger VLD = .618 .284 168 Nosler ABLR = .624 (Litz)

3150 from a 24" barrel .308? has this data been verified through another chrony preferably a lab radar or magneto speed? This seems about 150-200 fps faster than anything I have ever seen or heard of with 150gr bullets.

Model 10, 11, 12, 14, & 16 are all the same action. The different numbers just represent different options such as stainless or wood stock. For $120 the Boyds line of stocks are really nice for the money with my favorite being the Pro Varmint model. It fits really well and shoots nice prone off of a Bi-pod as well as off the bench with a rest and bag.

Belt sander for rough fit and some sand paper and turtle wax to finish fit. Mask off the stock with masking tape and wrap the sand paper around a small flat piece of wood or small sharping stone and just work your way around. Put a good movie on tv and get to it. Takes a bit of time but will look good when your done.

Get a grind to fit pad and fit it yourself. You will end up with a lot better fit and finish. The pre fit pads rarely fit correctly in my experience.

Sold Pending funds.

I have for sale a Hawke sidewinder 30mm scope. Like new its spent the last few months on a 250 Savage in Burris signature rings. No ring marks excellent condition. Asking $225 shipped the lower 48.

I have for sale a brand new vortex crossfire II 6-18x44 with dead hold bdc reticle. I received this from vortex as a replacement of my old crossfire scope. New never mounted $200 shipped.

Sold Pending Funds.

Price drop to $175 for an AZ buyer.

TTT.

The .243 is hands down the better multi-purpose cartridge listed but there are others out there as well. The .260 Rem or 6.5 Creed would also be great choices and allow for a bit more power and range on the top end of the spectrum with 85-90gr bullet options for the yotes at blistering speeds. The .257 Roberts mentioned above would be an outstanding rig as well.

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If you reload, the .260 makes the most sense as you should already have plenty of .243 brass you can simply neck up and be on your way. If you are looking for high quality factory ammo at a decent price that is relatively easy to find then the Creed is the way to go. Ballistically there is really only about 50fps difference between the two.

So again your saying without actually saying it is that you are shooting or going to be shooting a Lapua because it works so great at long range and drops elk where they stand and yet claim you don't care what the BC is. I hate to say it but you really can't have one without the other. Bigger caliber, heaver bullet results in a higher BC just the way it works. Make that same shot with a .300 or any other suitable caliber for that matter and the bull would have likely died just as quickly. As you have pointed out so many times before it helps when you hit them in the right place. Just to clarify a bit the O.P. asked what bullet to shoot out of his .300 Win Mag. The fact that you can't answer a simple question such as what bullet proves you are a lot dumber than I have previously given you credit for. Anyone here with half a brain and who has done even a little bit of shooting understands the point I am trying to make. If you are half as good as you claim you are and done half the hunting and shooting you claim you have, you know I'm right too. You just don't want to admit here in front of all your friends. I'm tired of explaining myself over and over again on this topic, It's obvious there is no getting through and no one especially the O.P. is getting anything out of this.

Never said anything about being unethical just not needed. I love how you guys keep putting words in my mouth. And I love how you keep proving my point. Let me ask you this. Why are you shooting .338 lapuas? List me a few reasons and then ask why it's so bad I suggest heavy for caliber high BC bullets for the .300.

I will never deny the .338 Lapua offers outstanding ballistics but I will defend to my dying breath that it is not needed to hunt elk or especially these little deer. There comes a point where it becomes more compensation than anything else. I for one am very comfortable with the size of my whoop stick. Those with itty bitty ones shoot .338 lapuas.

Wow I could post pics of dead critters too but it still wouldn't change the fact that higher BCs will drift less in the wind, retain more energy and provide flatter trajectories. This is proven scientifically beyond a doubt. I have never once in this thread said that you "have" to shoot a higher BC bullet I have only been proving the advantages of doing so. I also never said any one should shoot a partition at that range. What I posted was simply a what if scenario to show what can be accomplished with a higher BC. Don't take things so personally and seriously it's only the internet. Step outside and go shoot a ballistically inferior bullet at something, take a picture and calm down. And yes I did kill a deer at over 1200 yards and I didn't need a super duper magnum to do it. A high BC bullet was used though and it worked like a champ.

Sorry got mixed up in who I was talking to.

Oh for heck sakes. It was only an example what an improved BC can do for you. Pick a caliber I don't care which one and the results will be the same. Nothing misleading about the drifts at all. The higher BC bullet will always have less. Always. The only thing that's way under threshold in this thread is your Stanford - Binet test scores. FYI you wanted to know what difference a .400 vs. .500 BC would be. The bullets I compared closely match those parameters while staying caliber specific for an apples to apples comparison. I'm sorry you didn't like the answers.

1422 fps for the Nosler Partition 1631 fps for the Berger VLD

Depending on the caliber and the cartridge you could be looking at a few feet of drop and 2 feet of windage at longer ranges. While drop is not hard to deal with the wind drift is the critical difference with long range shots where a couple of inches could mean a less than ideal shot placement or a miss. Take for example the .270 Winchester and a deer at 800 Yards. Hunter #1 is shooting a 140gr Nosler Partition at 3000 fps with a BC of .405 in standard conditions Drop at 800 yards = 183 inches 10mph wind drift at 800 yards = 65 inches Retained Energy at 800 yards = 628 ft lbs Hunter # 2 is also shooting a 270 Winchester but he is using a 140gr Berger VLD at 3000 fps with a BC of .487 in standard conditions Drop at 800 yards = 162 inches 10mph wind drift at 800 yards = 51 inches Retained Energy at 800 yards = 827 ft lbs .082 difference in BC alone accounts for 21 inches of less drop, 14 inches of less drift and 200 ft lbs more energy at 800 yards in favor of the bullet with the higher BC. Keep in mind this is just a comparison of bullets with the same weight just different shapes. If hunter #2 was using an even heavier for caliber bullet say 150gr the numbers are even greater in his favor. Both bullets will do the job just fine and yes the animal may not know the difference but the shooter sure would. If each hunter were to hold off for wind the same amount Hunter #1 may very will miss that deer at 800 yards. Knowing your rifle and how it performs with whatever bullet you choose is most important but to say a higher BC doesn't really matter is just foolish. Minimizing the environmental effects appllied to your bullet during flight and maximizing the potential on target makes sense to me.

So what your telling me is the .338 Lapua is shooting a bigger, heavier high BC bullet and its really working well. Seems like your proving my point to me.