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+1 on Evan T. I do exactly the same for the same reasons in my O/U in 20ga.

Don't give up yet. I have waited several days after hearing guys on here celebrating then I get hit. For those of you who know what unit you were drawn for, how do you know? I am "pending" on the AZGFD site, but did git hit for four deer tags for our four man group.

Fun replies guys. But really, what do you really think about this issue and what did you send to the G&F? I know not everyone agrees with my opinion, and that is OK. I would just like to know the arguments for banning non-networked cameras.

I think my guns are already registered. I have been buying hunting licenses and tags for over 30 years.

Here is what I sent AZGFD. Dear AZGFD, First of all, thank you for all you do. In AZ we have a great Game and Fish Department and I appreciate all of you very much. I am not sure what problem you are trying to solve by banning or restricting cameras. If hunters and guides are not checking cameras, they are actually likely to visit a specific water hole or travel corridor even more often. I don't think "checking cameras disturbs game" is a valid argument against trail cameras. Hunting public land today is big money guides vs. the self guided. I can't compete on an Elk hunt with someone who will send $XX,XXX on a guide to plant YY cameras and hire a team to cruise the entire unit for months preseason to find that perfect animal. If you take away hunting cameras, the big money will compensate with more boots on the ground. I can't do that. My couple of cameras out for a few of weeks before the season let me know where game is and isn't; making me much more effective than I would be otherwise. If you take away my low budget self guided hunter's ability to use cameras, I think I will be hurt much more than the big money guides. if you are trying to equal the field, I think banning cameras does the opposite. Big money always finds a way. If people are getting cameras stolen, that is an ethics issue that a new law will not solve. If cameras have to be 1/4 from a tank or restricted to a season limit, who polices that? If not identified to the owner do AZGF officers just cut them down and sell them on ebay? If registered, where do the resources (time and money) come from to track down and fine the camera violator? In my opinion, the destruction caused by quads, side by sides and other "off hi-way" vehicles along with access to locked in public property is a much bigger issue than cameras in the woods.

You are both correct. I did mean the tenderloin. I'll try this if I get one this year. Thanks for the tip.

Wow, I've never seen a tick on a Javelina either come to think of it. Buckshot and cactus spines, yes. I think they make great green chili and sausage. Not so found of them as roasts or steaks, but its OK. I've had elk that was worse. We have fed Javelina green chili to people who loved it until they found out what it was. How can naming a thing change its taste? I boiled a head for days (still have it). My wife was not impressed, but the pot (and head) came out fine. While sun bleaching in the back yard my dog buried it in our sand playground. Took me a year to find it, but it was really clean by then. In the future I would let the dog ants and beetles do the work instead and then finish on the roof to bleach. A dog would do too much damage if not boiled first. Live and learn.

Same here on the gutless "Alaska" method. I pack a large trash bag to lay out to keep things clean during the butchering and deboning process. You end up with a few gallon bags of easily packable meat. I leave the head and hide as my wife has shared that I have enough of them already. My only problem is that I am leaving the back straps. What do you gutless guys do to about the back straps? Mr. September, please share the Jalapeno Polish Sausage recipe.

My group is in 5B for rifle. This has been our best Elk unit over the years. In my opinion the roads are not as bad as in 6A. Of course it depends on your definition of "road." We have had our best luck in the PJs around Deep Well NE of Chavez Mountain. This year we are staying at the Happy Jack Lodge so we can better control our scent. Ha Ha Ha. If you want a thrill, take the road off 87 that goes by Dick Hart tank and then on the East side of East Sunset right beside Clear Creek. I don't know the FR number and haven't been there in years for a reason. Scared all of us pretty bad.

They are all over my yard in North Phoenix, but in 25 years of Dove hunting I have never bagged one.

Yeah Couesnut. I have had the same problem on and off over the 25 years of hunting (sometimes just trying) to hunt doves around Phoenix. I lost count of the spots I have lost over the years. For the past 3 years I have had on and off luck on Happy Valley road West of the 60. It is about 6 miles out and just past where the pavement ends. I did well there last year, but scouting around 10:00 am on 8/13/20 saw one bird. No promises. There can be more than enough birds or none at all. As they say, it's hunting not finding.

What are the prospects for the Phoenix area Dove season this year? I am not seeing much out in the desert being that is dryer than ever, but they are all over my neighborhood as usual.

EZ Up + Cot + sub zero bag + Pad = no problem

Sorry prdatr - been away for awhile. Three army cots work, not so with BIG man cots we all use now. I was skinnier once honest when a 24" bed was OK. Not so much now.

+1 on the Cabelas Alaskan guide. I have the 6 man version and it fit 3 army cots back in the day when camping with my kids. It does just fine with two man sized cots with space for a footlocker each and room to stand up and dress. Mine is about 10 years old and has the aluminum poles which I recommend if you can still get. They don't break. This tent has been through wind, snow and rain and doesn't flap at all. Takes a while to set up, but I can do it by myself and it is easy with two. Lots of poles prevent that old "flap, flap, flap, flap" of wall tents in a storm. Never leaked, always dried before being put away. Great investment for a good nights sleep in bad weather.

Check the fishing reports. I was there last June and the Halibut was great, but the salmon was just a nice day trip on a pretty river. Didn't get a single bite. Homer and Seward are both great you will have fun and want to go back. Alaska is almost as great a place as Arizona. When I retire I want to live in AK in the summer and AZ in the winter. Ha, Ha, fat chance of evern retiring.

Get one of the major bullet company books (I suggest Berger's book) as they all have good reloading information. If you are set on a specific bullet and weight, buy that brand's book. Don't trust loads you read about online unless they are from one of The Books from a know powder or bullet company. Stay away from the Load Data books as while convenient, the information is very very very old. Don't get discouraged if your first attempts don't work out. This hobby takes practice and patience. It is good you have a mentor. I had several that helped me a lot. Finally if your first attempts don't work out, try a different bullet, bullet and powder. My particular .308 took some time and many dead ends before I found the 1 MOA load I was looking for. Welcome to the hobby and beware it is addicting.

What!?! No Habaneros in that bunch. Looks like all wimpy jalapenos to me.

My group is headed out for rifle in 16A and will be camping off 17 Mile Road near the Snake Springs turn off. Stop by if you're in the area. Scouting didn't show anything from up by Wickieup near Shannon's Basin down to 17 Mile Road and points further South. There was a lot of burro sign however and I bet that is why this unit has declined. Not expecting much except burro sightings and with the weather this week it will not be a warm hunt. Maybe just a l o n g party in the desert. Nothing wrong with that.

Check out Thor's Hammer custom holsters. Dan is in Tucson and does excellent custom work for what ever purpose you like. I have three of his outside the waist band holsters. One LH for a Glock 21, and two different RH 1911. His holsters are of far better quality than any of the big name stuff I have, and I have a drawer full.. http://www.thorshammercustomleather.com/firearmholsters.htm

Wow. I thought the linked trail cameras were a bad thing for us less well healed hunters. A drone in the air during hunting season is a bad idea no matter what it is up there for except maybe search and rescue or fire fighting. SSS just became SS as the drone parts will mix in with the Mylar balloons and hopefully mostly degrade faster. No need to dig.

My best wishes as well. Thank you for your dedication.

Now what are you going to do for the rest of the day other than clean birds?

Way to go Adam and Lance as well as everyone else who had a good day. For those not so fortunate, believe me I can relate. No Eurasians or white wing where I was, but two Hawks were quite jealous of my take. They were the only company I had. I actually can't believe I limited as the start was slow. Once I hit 10 there was no stopping. Started at 5:45 and shot the last bird at 9:15.

Topo maps for iPhone works off grid IF you download the maps in advance. I like Topo because it has real 7.5 quads that the software pastes together for seamless maps. Now that the GPS is functional when in airplane mode I can hunt all day and use up less than 50% of my phone's battery. It doesn't store tracks, but allows for waypoints. It also has a neat shading feature that shows you what you can see of the terrain from your location. Poor man's 3D I guess, but it works. For under $10 try it and delete it if you don't like it. Back in the day I spent this much on couple of paper quad maps! I do still carry my Rino along with my phone as it is much more rugged, has com capability as well as full tracking like any GPS.