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Congratulations and I don't like you

I scout as much as i can. It is surprising how little a deer moves, when he finds a spot he likes . If you find a buck scouting, a good place to start is there. No matter what hunt you have. Also, you learn a lot about deer if you just watch what they are doing and how they act. For example, the buck I helped my nephew get I had not been to that spot in nine months and I knew there would be a buck there from past experience with the area. We were in the spot for less than five seconds when he spotted the deer. Only six and a half more months and I can hunt deer again, I should go scout.

Some of us live in the cool country

Admittedly, I am a big nerd. I put in for areas not because of trophy potential or draw odds but because of history. 40b Tinajas Altas because of what I read about "camino del diablo" and the importance of that water (as well as the sheeps red horns) and the rocky black river hunt. I got to hold the horn they found that allowed the reintroduction of Rocky sheep into Arizona. From what the owner told me was it was over 1000 years old and found in a cave on the Black River.

I complain. Of course I will pay it and G&F personnel does need some raises. I complain because a Government entity should not be for profit, when I see billboards on hwy 60 and on the 202 marketing themselves commercials telling the public what they do, then I know they have to much of my money. They are stewards of arizona's game not the owners. They allow us to hunt in their view, honestly, we allow them to lead. It was not long ago when G&F got their last raise and had an excess that was taken from them and placed in the general fund. I wish government would take what the people need and not more. I know that would only happen in fantasy land didn't tatoo live in Arizona?

The only thing that has not gone up are wages

Bite your tongue, that is my go to beer. You light beer drinkers don't get a vote on good beerI'm a bourbon man myself but when I drink beer it's in a gold can from the Rockies. Yep I went to Blue Ridge. BTW the gold can is owned by the South Africans. LOL

Bite your tongue, that is my go to beer. You light beer drinkers don't get a vote on good beer

Nice fish.

The ending

Deer 1,3, and 4 in my signature are archery OTC. Deer 2 is a rifle draw deer. I am getting to the point, point wise, that I may just start waiting for a premier tag. The OTC deer tag is the greatest tag in the state.

i guess technically they did that to Bruce. If the pattern holds true and the unexpected continues to escalate, I think the kardashians will make Kanye talented? Altough gold digga is on my phone

Way back a million years(90's) ago when I was young, pretty and didn't mind getting kicked out for trespassing we had the codes to the shores and we could fish the channels next to the very large houses with great results and minimal weeds.

Sorry couldn't resist

yep and rainbow

The cardinal looks like it has a chip on its shoulder for being a cardinal. It took me a bit to figure out what was wrong with woodpecker.

Funny story about something like that. This is the story they have told me a couple of times. My dad and his friend were shipping out from New Orleans to Vietnam in 1970 or so. They were in a bar and a transvestite was hitting on my dads friend. He told he/she no in a not so nice way. He/she says "there is only one thing I like more than S______ D___ and that is to fight!" He/She then squares up to box, they never told me who won.

This topic definitely snowballed. Some people miss the point though, it is ok NOT to have the same viewpoint as every body else. It is much more interesting when Civilized people have different points of view and discuss with passion and logic. What is not acceptable is when the attacks get personal. Murphy believes poaching is not right under any circumstance. I believe under certain conditions it is NOT morally objectionable. Who is right? The answer is both of us and neither of us.

Murphy, look at the irony of you calling a personal attack when you did the same thing at the top of the page to naturegirl. The person I was referring to was a very interesting character and the only interesting thing left about this discussion with you is to see your need for the last word. I will put my hunting skills against yours any day.

Murphy, obviously because you talk louder and more than everybody else you must be smarter than everybody. The gentlemen I was referring to with the 76 elk started at age 8 or 9 and shot his last one at age 72 before passing. Some legal and some otherwise. All my friend said was they were very poor and they needed the meat. I am not a law enforcement officer or an accountant so I did not ask exactly how much money was enough to feed his family or the legality of it. I do know that he mentioned that in the late 40's it was an accepted practice. If I was as smart as you think you are I would have written down the stories he told me and wrote his memoirs, he lived a full life that would have made a great movie.

Gentlemen, Get the popcorn because I am going to pick a fight. Murphy your comments are rude and asinine. You can have a difference of opinion without getting slanderous. She said her only experience was with young man feeding his family. I have known several people that have taken game out of season for a better reason than taking a trophy. One was an older gentleman many years my senior who shot 76 elk in his lifetime some with tags some without. None of the meat went to waste and him growing up on the west slope of Colorado in cattle country never taking the breeding stock. He never shot a cow, calf, spike, or bull above 5 points. Another one is my brother in law who grew up very poor. Simple if they did not have game meat they did not eat. Yet another one an apache friend of mine, had a tag for a cow or calf. I was with him on the reservation when we came up to a spike (not legal that year for the tag he had) he shot it. I said you just shot a spike and he goes "look it was sucking his mother's t_t" This practice is socially accepted on the Rez. Murphy, I find most of your comments self righteous and of little value. I enjoy nature girls post because it reminds me of the journey as a hunter I started many years ago. I do not condone hunting out of season for any reason, but in some cases it is understandable. It is against the law to take game out of season, but isn't a greater crime for an impoverished family to starve.

I feel your guys pain. Here in Show Low I had to turn the AC on yesterday

Big Thanks for the Help!!!

I was daydreaming about hunting sheep one day and I stumbled across the hunt for the specimens in the smithsonian. It talked about hunting sonoran pronghorns and mexicana sheep around Tinajas Altas circa 1922. I have not been able to find it since. Does anybody know where I can find the web address? I have stuck out on mimicking my google search.

I know it is likely a bad idea, but part of me likes the idea. As a dyed in wool archery hunter it will eliminate a lot of the guys that only hunt archery elk because its in the rut and send them back to rifle hunting where they are a better fit.