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just curious what the common consensus is.

If all things were equal than the traditionalist side would have an even more lopsided following. By mentioning size it brings nuance/degrees to the equation. Obviously, by increasing your kill radius by a half mile (880 yards) in each direction you will have the opportunity at larger animals. By limiting the buck to a forky for the traditional side it gets your mind wondering if it's the hunt or the animal that's the trophy.

Wow, I took a Cwt'er elk hunting yesterday and this 'poll' blew up. Many of the post recently have been "My ____ got it done today at xxx yards" and I wanted to see if that's what/where current hunters mindsets are. Poll essentially is The science of shooting VS the art/craftsmanship of hunting.

and ADHD takes over...Nope, your choices are just narrow minded. If I had to choose it would be the deer with the rifle. I wouldn't shoot a forky. the scope is narrow. this was intended to see opinions on short range primitive and long range technical. This was not intended for you to give your view on great shots. you can create your own poll for that.

and ADHD takes over...

yep both end with the same killing shot. trying to keep it as unbiased as possible with all the factors being the same

Never hunt the late hunts, they suck. True hunters only hunt archery in September. Btw here are a few pics of the bulls I passed up this weekend

Now that all of the big bulls have been taken by the watermarked professionals or the Uber Archers that will not touch their bow again until their next early season elk tag, its time to see if I can find one bull that is mature. Just a bit to early for good pictures I couldn't get pics of the bigger bulls, but it was a fun morning.

gonna look in the cedars this afternoon

A couple from this morning. Not quite shooters

Saw the Elk rutting hard in Unit 1 last week. I also saw full size bulls with cows in 3b in July. I sort of think its always been that way and we are now just taking notice.

Did you go to any of the spots we discussed?

My goal is the largest bull in unit 1 that I can find. The area I checked did not have a hunter and I saw over 100 cows and twenty bulls. It was a several mile walk. I will check a couple other hard to get to places in my quest.

Found these guys over the weekend in 36a. Carpeted overshoes and full camo

Another picture that I downsized and got to fit.

75 yards when I took the pics and started asking who I was. 50 yards when I started videoing them with my phone. I may start bringing one of those repeating firearms with me. Wow they asked who you were? Maybe this group were "scouts" walking ahead of the group with the load? Usually when they see someone they beeline it the other way. These guys did not panic at all. I get the feeling this was not their first trip. They were strangely comfortable

One shot by all means you can share with whoever. Send me your email address and I will send you the better quality pics. BP does know of this location now. Fred

75 yards when I took the pics and started asking who I was. 50 yards when I started videoing them with my phone. I may start bringing one of those repeating firearms with me.

I'm in where do I sign up. oh wait, I usually hunt in shorts and running shoes.

If he is still around unit 1 on November 10th. I will take care of him for you. What happen to his nose?

I have an antelope that my taxidermist is expecting me to enter. Could I schedule your services for after the 20th? thanks Fred

How did the hunt go?

Walking the length of the baboquivari's from mexico to the Coyote mountains. Just Taking illegal immigrant trails along the reservation fence. Talking to a few border crossers they mentioned seeing some giant coues. I figure it should be about a 30 mile walk with some epic scenery and some really good hunting. I have been thinking about doing this for a few years now. January I will make it happen, I have one huckleberry that has committed to going with me.

I tentatively set the dates as 1/4-1/7. I have eight deer points and feel I am getting close to a strip archery tag, so it will take an epic buck for me to put a stalk on. This will be as much as a trip of exploration as it will be a hunting trip for me.

I'm cheating a little bit. Going in at Mile marker 14, along the southern border of santa margarita ranch and stopping at my family's property just to the east of the coyote wilderness along coleman road. According to the onx map app its about 27.3 miles.