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Wow, someone has a different opinion then yours and its an attack on your integrity? I do not question your integrity. I questioned the methods and how hot the fire really is. I am not writing a dissertation on the decline of hunting, I am trying to form an opinion for myself from A) what I have seen and B- what I studied from the data not processed through people with objectives. I may be a fool or I may have 145 IQ and am just asking for the raw data to form an opinion, instead believing the hyperbole you are pushing. Is my ostrich (head in the sand) method better for me than your Chicken Little (sky is falling) defense you are pushing. Right now for me, YES. Also back to the Scooby Doo Question, Are you Don the Bass Guy? The Super Bonus Point is the best idea out there and should be approved.

I wasn't prepared to get trolled, but I will argue with the crazy guy outside of Circle K once in awhile to keep my wits sharp especially after a couple of Sam Adams Winter Ale. I wasn't Referring to Jay Scott's podcast, I stopped listening to that a long time ago I am not his type of hunter. I was referring to what the AES Guy said at the first meeting and what Pete said in the parking lot after the second meeting. Pete also brought up the Utah Model several times. Would you prefer the word luminaires? I am asking for the source of that data not CAPAZ interpretation of it. Who ran the survey? How many people were surveyed? what was the demographic? what are the geographic influences? Etc. HSUS has there own problems that will deplete excess capital soon: PER thenonprofitchronicles.com "Last week, the Humane Society of the US announced a “reconciliation process” that is intended to heal its workplace. HSUS is inviting “anyone who may have experienced or witnessed sexual or other kinds of harassment, inappropriate workplace behaviors, a hostile work environment and/or retaliation” to share their experiences in confidential interviews with Kate Kimpel, a respected DC lawyer and advocate for women. Aside from the language around reconciliation — it’s not the job of those who have been harassed to reconcile with those who mistreated them — this is welcome news. It’s an open-ended investigation, at last, into the widespread allegations of sexual harassment lodged against Wayne Pacelle, the former CEO of HSUS. His behavior, it appears, enabled others to engage in inappropriate conduct and set an unhealthy tone for the organization; at least three other senior executives at HSUS have been accused of workplace misconduct affecting women in recent years. A fish rots from the head down, as the saying goes. “Women could be preyed on for years,” said Kelly Dermody, a lawyer representing women at the animal advocacy group. By email, Dermody told me that she is pleased by this latest development: “The selection of Kate Kimpel as the outside investigator gives the whole process enormous credibility, and certainly serves my clients’ interests in advancing the mission of serving animals.” Hunters did not show up to some of the council meetings instead of blaming hunters for that: look within, did your group send an email to people in the area saying show up? Maybe its the Hunting political leaders they do not want to follow. Ask yourself "WHY" and "HOW do we fix it" To accomplish "education" the system doesnt need to be changed. G&F needs to hire a savy social media advisor (100K) and get four interns even from ASU (free) This is like the last few minutes of a Scooby Doo episode I have to know if I guess right on who you are. Are You DON the BASS Guy on CAPAZ or Are you that Ponytailed guys wife?

I went to the meetings, I am sure I have video somewhere of the dignitaries saying 1000 tags. I would love to see the raw survey data of pubic opinion on hunting that justifies your statements. if we are talking in generalities small town america (sedona/verde valley may be the exception) love hunting its the cities that are an issue. Judging by market trends, hunting permits that went under-subscribe a couple of years ago now are taken before the second portion (3-4-5) part of the draw. Javelina permits are long gone as we discuss this for units that had left overs weeks after the hunt started . Indicating an upturn an hunter interest. Do we need to change legislation and procedure because a few predator callers do not show a little more restraint on how they post a picture? Taking permits away from the general draw or ignoring the science that goes into tag allocation by throwing 100-1000 extra tags out there. Probably not. Although I consider Marketing funding an accessory not a necessity, A Super bonus point compared to the 'taking tags option' as acceptable.

An extra bonus point is like buying an extra lottery ticket for the power ball, will it change the percentages, slightly yes, but it is a better option than giving a 1000 plus tag to the political hunting dignitaries in the name of propaganda. It has been explained to me in detail by the dignitaries how the raffle money, auction money and the like is used and who allocates it. Lets keep them from getting more tags. Is marketing needed, probably not, but its a hot button topic right now so an extra bonus point would be an acceptable compromise that would increase 'marketing funds' and the long term effects would be minimal.

How can you kill good bucks and not have a yeti? Congrats

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I tried it once. Froze to the point I didnt want to hunt. Didnt see a deer, then we dropped down into the blue and found deer and it was warmer and my desire to hunt came back.

Don't forget bison!!

the super bonus point essentially will not change the draw. It would be like buying an extra an extra lottery ticket. I am just glad they are not reallocating permits to outside parties. I would add a couple of other ideas like a license plate that essentially put mini billboards across the state that declare support to hunting and an "easy button" that would calculate draw odds for a hunt/draw at touch of a button.

#metoo

I have hunted a portion of 36c flats since I was 10 years old, after much trial and error (wet years and dry) I have discovered that certain bucks prefer certain areas of cover no matter the weather or time of year. That being said, when pushed they move to different patch of dirt that looks similar to the patch of dirt they just left. My last flats buck.

Usually I still hunt the flats away from vantage points for mature deer, but I can go several days without seeing anything

Nevada, I believe, does that. I think AZ's system although flawed is the best system in the west. It rewards people who have been trying for years and still keeps those with no points a realistic chance at getting a permit, thus keeping hunter recruitment higher.

I think that's called inflation

That space between north of the high school following the creek bottom to the lake has it share.

I've done pretty good east of 60 between the highway and the REZ fence. Dont worry about the gear just go out and hunt, you will find what works for you. I have taken very many animals and some trophys using only 150.00 dollar 10x42 binoculars (still using them). Good luck and enjoy the experience.

seen a few this year

You probably had bonus points, putting you in the max point portion, very likely with a lot of other people. That eliminated you from the general draw where the tags were leftover.

The April Bull Bison tag for me.

no turkey. didnt put in for pig. Did get a Bull bison tag

Maybe you should stay in the much safer coues units like 23, 24b, 21, 22. The deer are bigger in those units anyway and no bp issues bothering your hunt.

Heres another idea if government worked like its citizens did. Cut 4% from g&f's annual spend and they would have all the money they need to tell people they are doing a good job. Sorry blasphemous idea.

Good idea, make it 50.00 dollars for nonresidents.

Reptile sessions

Quartering away is a bad shot? The execution for whatever reason caused the result. I know several of the trophies on my walls were from quartering away shots. I would not hesitate to take a quartering away