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This conversation is reminding me of the French Defense against the germans in WWII. Of course we are not the french. Taken from Wiki. The Maginot Line (French: Ligne Maginot, IPA: [liɲ maʒino]), named after the French Minister of War André Maginot, was a line of concrete fortifications, obstacles, and weapon installations built by France in the 1930s to deter invasion by Germany and force them to move around the fortifications. Constructed on the French side of its borders with Italy, Switzerland, Germany, and Luxembourg, the line did not extend to the English Channel due to French strategy that envisioned a move into Belgium to counter a German assault. Based on France's experience with trench warfare during World War I, the massive Maginot Line was built in the run-up to World War II, after the Locarno Conference gave rise to a fanciful and optimistic "Locarno spirit". French military experts extolled the Line as a work of genius that would deter German aggression, because it would slow an invasion force long enough for French forces to mobilise and counterattack. The Maginot Line was impervious to most forms of attack, including aerial bombings and tank fire, and had underground railways as a backup; it also had state-of-the-art living conditions for garrisoned troops, supplying air conditioning and eating areas for their comfort.[1] Instead of attacking directly, the Germans invaded through the Low Countries, bypassing the Line to the north. French and British officers had anticipated this: when Germany invaded the Netherlands and Belgium, they carried out plans to form an aggressive front that cut across Belgium and connected to the Maginot Line. However, the French line was weak near the Ardennes forest. The French believed this region, with its rough terrain, would be an unlikely invasion route of German forces; if it was traversed, it would be done at a slow rate that would allow the French time to bring up reserves and counterattack. The German Army, having reformulated their plans from a repeat of the First World War-era plan, became aware of and exploited this weak point in the French defensive front. A rapid advance through the forest and across the River Meuse encircled much of the Allied forces, resulting in a sizeable force being evacuated at Dunkirk leaving the forces to the south unable to mount an effective resistance to the German invasion of France.[2] The line has since become a metaphor for expensive efforts that offer a false sense of security.[3]

Not knowing the engineering aspects of the wall. Would a wall be successful in an area without patrols where they could use their stereotypical shoveling skills to go under a wall?

Get the tag and I'll show you a few places where you can do better than 320.

This is the libertarian part of mind speaking, that's my point is the size of our gov't needed? I am asking, I do not know the answer.

Other than people you know that are not getting paid, Has anybody noticed the effects of the Gov't shutdown?

They need to pay taxes. Enforce the current rules. Also charge a money transfer fee to Mexico. Billions of dollars go from The US via transfers every year. Just enforce the current laws and that would reduce the "want" to come here.

From before the recession the traffic has diminished because the border patrol is evolving it's methods. A better way I think would be to punish severely the guys that hire undocumented/fraudulently documented workers with severe punishments to repeat offenders and even harsher penalties to drug runners. You can try to keep them out which works to an extent(wall) or make the undocumented feel unwanted which I believe would make them not want to try to begin with.

It sounds like the master guide gave the upincomer student a lesson on how to get his client a big buck in a competitive atmosphere. A3 should pay Duane for the lesson.

Same buck. I'm headed down this weekend for this one's big brother. We played tag a couple of Saturdays ago.

He only took a couple of pictures. Summarized story he missed this.buck at 730am yesterday morning, gives me a call and says he is headed to the mountains to glass down for him. In brotherly fashion I call him in effen idiot stay on the tracks. 4.3 miles of looping, trotting and double backing later he gets within 50 yards and pins him. Was with two other bucks and ten does.

Fell in some Cholla. My brother sucks at taking pictures

The rut in 24a was not awesome. Only saw this baby buck The rut down south was awesome Brother got this today

Let me put it to you this way, when he gets a tag he is doing a Euro and selling the cape.

My taxidermist and I have had discussions about the value of a desert bighorn sheep cape, he was telling the price for a full cape is upwards of 10k. Hope the tannery makes it right.

You can do it online now

There are mule deer all over. I found these 15 minutes from town in Tucson mountain park a couple of Saturdays ago

Just out of curiosity did you have an elk tag this year?

Seen two herds today in 36c. I don't have a tag

About 15" in show low

This is down in 36c. I've seen tracks by bison ridge and my nephew saw a cat of rim road as you get into town. I am thinking the guy that shot this got a foxpro and an AR this year and has become a varmint hunter with his new toys.

I did my limited opportunity cow hunt with my recurve. dang bulls kept getting the way. Have some cool cell phone video. Once I found out I got a bison tag, I put the recurve away and started with my compound again. I didnt want shooting to be the reason for me not getting one.

Haha,. I wish that was the case. I had a 125 grain broadhead that I've been practicing with for my upcoming bison hunt. Out of the 5 arrows guess which one I picked. Also I think my subconscious was telling me don't shoot you still have four more days to hunt Not the best pic but you get the idea

Missed a 80" coues that was with a another small buck on Monday in 24a. I still haven't seen any rutting activity.

Didn't see a deer in 36c today