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ive offered to some friends and buddies on years i didnt get drawn, just for the chance to go. no one has ever taken me up on it. What unit, and what hunt? Who doesnt like peanu butter and jelly for a week? just kidding

I've already been to game and fish (Mesa office), and the nice office staff's official answer was "huh, i dont know. that will have to be figured out." I explained to them my current situation (using my current 2013 license). I bought by my license in august 2012, for the following 2013 year. under the "new way". my 2013 license would be expired before my three (dont hate!) fall hunts. I purchase the following year license (as many others do) about september to put in for the feb javelina hunt. Tony is correct. She said purchase the 2014 license now, and nothing changes because the effective date for the new reg isnt until jan 1. Walmart, and other third party vendors, she informed me werent participating because there will be a new "book" for the 365 license on the new year date. So they are holding back until the new law goes into effect. I like the restructuring of the license system, minus the calendar/365 yr change. (yes, i know fees went up.... but depending on the license the complication went down.)

i seen this come through on "the outdoor hub" e-news. funny and heartbreaking for all those hunters.

Industrial Metal supply (48th st, between southern and broadway... almost due west of the tempe diablo stadium) has lots of variety. We go there for work and most of the time they have such a huge variety of remnants, we very rarely buy "new stock". everything from sacks of lead shot to structural stainless steel.

Peoria fire department has jurisdiction over lake pleasant.

Chandler hunter found dead with gunshot wound Apache County sheriff’s deputies are investigating the death of a Chandler man after his body was found with a gunshot wound to the chest at a forest camp south of Vernon, authorities said. Around 5 p.m. Thursday, authorities received a call regarding an overdue hunter in the Apache Sitgreaves National Forest, according to the Apache County Sheriff’s Office. The hunter, whose name is being withheld, was found around 6:30 p.m. at the campsite his family said he was at, deputies said. The man had been hunting with a friend earlier in the week, officials said. When the friend left on Monday to return to work, the man stayed at the camp and told his friend he planned to return home on Wednesday. When the man did not return home, his friend contacted the Sheriff’s Office, authorities said. Investigators said there was no indication of foul play, and that the evidence indicates an accidental death. Deputies are still investigating to ensure nothing has been overlooked, said Sheriff Joseph Dedman.

here's another article from the republic: \ By Daniel Gaytan The Arizona Republic-12 News Breaking News Team Wed May 8, 2013 2:53 PM The death of a Chandler hunter has been ruled accidental, according to investigators from the Apache County Sheriff’s Office. Investigators said they believe that Charles Duane Pinney, 56, died from a single gunshot wound to the right side of his chest on April 30 or May 1. Pinney was hunting turkeys in the Apache Sitgreaves National Forest near Vernon, according to Sgt. Richard Guinn of the Apache County Sheriff’s Office. Guinn said a search for Pinney began when he did not return to his Chandler home on May 1. Family and friends gave directions to Pinney’s camping spot, where investigators found him dead on May 2. There was no indication of foul play or any disturbance, Guinn said.

I don't have cable, and typically dont watch tv, but was at my brother's in tucson this past weekend and got to see a few episodes sunday night. ... The only saving grace that show has to offer are the spuratic facts that appear in text, going ino commercials. Couldnt agree with you all more, that show is bad. An idiotic hunter is more damaging to our passions than an intellectual "anti".

"Wife's truck".... "never let me drive it"..... does she know or agree to you wanting to sell it ha ha just kidding

Never been to Fogo's but been to two others like it (one in Albuqureque and one in Ahwatukee). I have dubbed it "meat bingo".... they walk around the place with skewers of meat, and if your little wooden thing is turned up they contiue to come around and bring different meats. And its good cuts like prime rib or stuff like that. The last time i was at a similar place they had 11 different varieties of meats. Where your stretchy pants.

usually around may 1st

usually around may 1st. gives a little over a month to decide. Deadline for the draw is tuesday june 11th

The forest access/road closures are so confusing. We spent time up in unit 8 last fall (Scouting, turkey, and cow elk). I know of at least one road that is marked "closed" on one end, that connects deeper into the forest to other roads.... that int marked closed at all. And like others have said, here isnt "much closure" to the closed areas. Heck, again off one of the "main" forest roads, there was a closed spur. In plain sight of the road closed sign there were two of the mobile mansion rv's 50 feet from the sign all set up for an extended stay. I know the state (along with game and fish) is trying to develop their own access plan

I seen this on The outdoor Hub Ezine that i get everyday. I dont know how old the footage is, (from june, but what year). Hopefully its not gone around before and it's still entertaining for some of you out there. Way to close to a black bear for my tastes, even if its a cub. ha ha ha

I may very well have misinterpretid the data incorrectly, but this is what i was looking at ( Survey, harvest and hunt data for small and big game. http://www.azgfd.gov/regs/HuntArizona2012.pdf) Either way... it does have the data for "number of bonus point" and "success drawn" for each.

Its all "horse apples" really. ha ha. There's a memeber on here that is well into consecutive hunts in the double digit range. I myself put in with my brother, typically, and have for a number of years. Usually its the same unit. If we get to go, we get to go. Based on the data from the hunt harvest reports (available at game and fish). With all the combinations of bonus points and applicants there was 508,616 (yes i added them up)"people"* that applied. (*counting each bonus point as an applicatin, because thats how it actually does work). In general, there are 25,034 available hunt tags this year for elk (not counting the champ hunts and a few of the other similar hunts). Giving a 04.9% chance at an oppurtunity to go. (now this percentage will change if you have bonus points yourself. Discussing the draw odds with an individual at work who had no bonus points like myslef, it was easier math). It took me three years to get drawn for my cow tag last year. This year we got drawn for bull, with no bonus points...and using my BofA card. Go figure. ha ha

"Firebird" is closing, but only by name. There's already talks ongoing about the tribe opening it back up as their own enterprise. (Currently, and for the past 30 years?, its been a lease agreement with one individual). Shocking that they "couldnt agree to terms" with the current private organization.

BofA did refuse to finance. or loan money to an arms manfacurer (cant recall the entire story). Ive got BofA and still get drawn. They cant dictate how you spend YOUR money, they can only decide what they can fund as an institution. Kenny, i got the same call regarding my atm card. Sounds like they may have had a concern, so they just sent new cards (with new numbers on them) .

As long as its a valid card, it doesnt matter. They send the email out (and did for the fall draw too ) after so many people complained last year's elk draw. Its just a reminder that if your card expired within the last two months (new card has a new number on it), that its up to you to update it, OTHERWISE, the valid card you submitted with at the time of the deadline is an invalid card at the time of the draw. And TJ, i think you should sit on your hands anyways and give the rest of us a chance. ha ha. If you remember back to last year, we texted each other when you got charged for last years elk hunt, as i was on the way to the G&F expo.... which is next weekend.... bum bum buuuuuh! (just saying is all, ha ha). Strange coincidence.

last year it was the last weekend of march, i remember talking to my buddies on the drive out to the game and fish expo at ben avery when people were reporting that they were getting charged. Keep holding your breath. ha ha

there's a member on here thats gone the last 23 years in a row, and has been successfull on atleast 17 of those hunts. (typically the same unit).... I dont buy the "X amount of bonus points needed to be drawn"

nice javelina!.... i cant wait to get into 37a for the ham.

you shoulda got the bacon bloody mary there.... delicious. ha ha

RAGNAR! I tricked my sister into doing the ragnar relay with me this year (end of Feb)... we wanted to the ' Changs half, but had the forsight to see that work was building up and our training got sacked just before the holidays due to my deer and elk hunts. Ragnar is a team of 12 (6 people in each van)...and one person starts running in wickenburg and the last person ends in tempe. 3 sections per runner in sequence with the others. my total distance is 17.5 miles. which isnt much spread over 3 pieces, except for theres no sleeping invlolved. Good luck on your run!