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TJ, you can bring it to spring bird if you wanna come into 23 with us., Wouldn't complain at all if you did. lol

coworker who has family in payson said they are catching some huge fish out of the lake in payson. Spring feeding? I dunno. dang near 80 in the valley now

whoops: http://www.chandleraz.gov/default.aspx?pageid=755 McQueen and ocotillo

where you heading? Chandler has a city park with an archery range. full lanes from 20 yards to 100 (seen Olympic style archers practice there). its "BYOT" but has shade, benches, tables, and hooks .... all for free

well catfish... there's always a chance about them may or may not being there with a game cam. with a radio, someone has a visual on the animal and directing them towards it. the idea is "fair" . If the kids were playing hide and seek in the back yard...and one kid was wired in to a kid sitting on the roof telling him or her where to look....

Its usually right around the expo. Remember riding out there 3 years ago to have TJ text me that he got charged. The actual draw for official results and for the paper people should be mid april

originally a native of chandler... but then the family moved back to Wisconsin to help on my uncle's dairy farm with about 160 acres. Most of the family was there. Had one city cousin in the national guard that would bring guns out to shoot on the back fields, but was too little to try shooting at the time. Plenty of deer back there, but they were a nuisance. Some of the Older neighbor kids would ask to hunt the fields, but was always taught "if you got time to sit around, you got time for chores". The only time I can remember having venison is off the front bumper of the farm truck. Mom clipped a deer coming back from taking my older brother to CCD at church. That was a sight to see. I remember the three of us younger kids daring each other to go in the detached garage that was the workshop for the farm to look at the deer hanging from the rafters draining into a bucket. Eventually we moved back to az. And a family friend put us up for the first summer we were back,My sisters God parents. He was a valley fire fighter and she had lupus. She was a camp ground host during the summer and he was either on shift or up north with her so they generously let us stay at the house. Worked out because we baby sat their grandkids. I was the tag along. Not old enough to explore the neighborhood like my older brothers I got to go with "Grandpa Jim" and the boys when they did cool stuff like shooting. Jim and his sons all hunted but never got to go. It wasn't until I turned 20 that I was invited for my first deer hunt by one of his boys. then they invited us out for javelina. One friend from work convinced me to go out for elk with him, and he was gonna "teach me all about it". My brother and I tried turkey a few times on our own (no one I knew wanted to bother with the small game like that). I still don't know what im doing. I know I ask a lot of questions on here from time to time. TJ (thanks TJHUNT2) and a few others are great at fostering the community to continue what it is , and I do my best to share what little I do know. Every trip out is another chance to learn. Eventually someday I might get it all figured out and hang a tag.

this is already been in place for a number of years. but by default.... the public land "behind" the private land is still technically open... it is unhuntable because it does not have any access. Case in point is unit 32. In and around Mammoth. there are large tracts of land that are inaccessible because landowners have revoked the rights of crossing due to lack of respect for the landowner (littering, harassing livestock, damage of roads and property)

well, just FYI B&C doesn't condone long distance shooting as "fair chase" hunting practices either. there are definitely two methods of using radios: What most people (including myself and my group).. using radios as a way to communicate back and forth in general. "i'm bored", "the deer have all left for the fall" "who's in charge of dinner" "i'm lost"... "i'm lost again" "i'm still lost". "who picked this unit anyways". and on and on. then there's the way that b&c are opposed. Like when we stopped at Mormon lake once on a day trip. There were spotters on the vista with binos and radios. then as we drove around the lake, Curly's point had another secondary spot team. Again with radios and binos. guiding their hunter into the elk sunning in the lake bed.

I sooo totally wanna try one of these some day. Doesn't look like heavily forested areas. Maybe with one of the Little Creek calls, and the decoy it would work maybe even try to bare hand a turkey like the one guy towards the end of the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wvcczx5nJw

state fair is in October, but the Maricopa county fair (as well as other county fairs) are around the spring time.

So, the original group of guys that introduced me to javelin have more or less disbanded (health, age, lack of interest, lots of reasons). For old time sake, on this past ham hunt. My brother and I went to the ol' unit and tried our hardest. Lots of mountain lion track, and a n old timer who had hunted the area for about 50 years that said "they're aint none left on this side". My curiosity has started to take over and the camp conversation was "where to next year?" (not that we weren't optimistic in the pursuit, just talking about going someplace new). We brought up the border units. With the influx of migrants and illegal activities, there seems to be a lack of interest in that area. I already have a plan on where to camp, and be secure. I also know there's been threads about hunting deer down south with, but I haven't ever heard anyone talk about Javelina down that way much. I know theres always leftover tags for that region. Does anyone have any thoughts about it? I was down to Bisbee right before the HAM hunt this year and that's what planted the seed about venturing out. I'd like to try the new area for us, plus leftover tags in my mind means there may not the all that much pressure to begin with. *not asking for honey holes, draw numbers, or anything specific. Just curious to what actual people have put eyeballs on as compared to stale data on the G&F hunt unit page

It's my own fault. I have a unit 23 turkey tag for April. I was going back and forth between the forums and random browsing of different things. I had started the thread on here (mainly to keep myself occupied and start gathering information for javelin). I later came across the "camouflage" statement at game and fish's page which made me laugh. (I mean, I was actually planning something more in the business casual attire for that trip, ha ha) then cited that as my example for the confusion about "stale information" . The post was and is to try and get more info about the southern units. We put in for the HAM hunt. Was just looking at trying to do a bit more exploring on the hunts and of the units before next October when the draw comes around again

yeah, I think the broad audience that the Outdoor Hub addresses they had to be more technical. Ive read articles about the history behind az's buffalo. By technicality, they are beefalo.... but they are probably as close to true buffalo az has ever had G&F list them as buffalo

No... this was a javelin thread. I referenced the general information that game and fish puts into their units about animals. Sorry for the confusion. -Like for example, when looking up information on turkey in unit 23...it suggests wearing camouflage. Anyways, the original inquiry I put up was to find better information about the border units. I was just curious about what real people (members here on CWT) had experienced.

Trphyhntr, sorry gotta apologize. Maybe "stale" wasn't the correct terminology, maybe "broad generalization" is a better term, like in this posting about turkey in unit 23 (for example): During the spring hunt turkeys can be located by imitating the call of a hen turkey. The males respond to these calls with a distinctive "gobble". Hunters should be dressed in camouflage to blend in with the area they are hunting. Successful hunters tend to stay put when a turkey "gobbles" and let the turkey come to them. It is very difficult to stalk a turkey, whose keen eyesight is better than human eyesight. It can also be dangerous to stalk a turkey. Other hunters are in the woods dressed in camouflage as you are and they may be the "turkey" you are stalking. So it is better to stay where you are when you hear the "gobble’ and find a good place that will act as a blind. I was merely trying to find out any more information about luck, success, or pros and cons of going down. Didn't mean to sound like it was a bash on game and fish. I actually support and agree with what they have to do as far as management practices. They're not perfect, but they're doing a decent job with the resources available.

I use rainlog.org

need it to rain around Young to fatten up my spring turkey!

There's that sinking feeling in your gut when you see the sport diminished and eroded from what it used to be from the inside out.... Just wait till Game and Fish sees this... Not to mention the fact that it put up by a hunter.... as if it wasn't hard enough to get drawn already.... archery, muzzle, rifle, and now coming soon "monkey season". then the whole scope of debating: long range monkeying, what caliber of monkey to use, how monkey season is better than rifle or anything else. sheesh. Screw it im out. ----- ha haha ha, good video though

well of course its fake, would you rather have them intentionally shoot someone? ha ha. That's not the point. The point is firearm/hunter safety.

zero..... the big storm that was supposed to start Friday hasn't come through yet

i'll take them. do you deliver? jk. try to meet up with you soon to pick them up.

^^^^^ that's funny right there^^^^^

still got the chaps?

I honestly don't expect anything until around the end of next month. seems to normally go hand in hand with the outdoor expo.