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Also, October/November is when Roaring Judy fish hatchery, just outside of Gunnison, processes the Kokanee and you can get the leftovers. All you need is a one day fishing license and room for several potato sacks full of freshly milked salmon. I did once when I lived nearby, and had over 400 salmon to process.

Don't overlook Blue Mesa or Ridgeway, two of my favorites. Lake San Cristobal, Taylor Park, and Ruedi have always been amazing trips for me as well.

Access on the west side is limited, at best. I ended up taking the Copper Creek road back in as far as I could, and then loaded up. I only made it about 3 miles back in, but never saw a soul.

The only place I can locate in the regs what constitutes a legal bear is in the commission order, and it states "any bear except sows with cubs". If it is a sow and cubs are nearby, but out of sight, then it is still a sow with cubs, and would therefor not be legal wildlife. I'd expect a citation and a visit to the commission to plead your case to not have your hunting and fishing privileges revoked. I could see the game warden falling back on a core principle of hunting, knowing what your target is and what's beyond it, before taking a shot. If you don't know that your target is something other than a sow with cubs, you shouldn't take the shot. Not trying to sound like D***, but depending on who the officer is and their disposition that day, they might be.

I tried coming in from the north and west sides last year. Got close to the wilderness, but there were no trails and I had to hike up and over the top of the ridge to get where I wanted to go. Not a smart move. I believe there are still two access points that are still open with trailheads to get back in there. Fourmile, Long Hallow and Rattlesnake access points are closed. Deer Creek is supposed to be open, but I never made it that far down on the east side. There is also supposed to be an open trailhead at the south end of the west side, but I cannot remember the name now. As for water, I found a small seep and set up camp nearby, but ran out of water on day 4 and had to pack out early. Not sure where the next closest water was, as I had a lion drinking from it my last two nights walking back to camp in the dark. I've heard there are springs further in, but I never made it over the ridge and stayed on the west face.

I have a pair similar to Lance's. Love them. Aluminum with the shock absorption. Not sure I would want to use a carbon fiber pole as I mine a scratched all over from bushwhacking. Finally had one go out on me last year on my hunt in 32. The mountain gave way under my feet coming down hill and the pole bent, but likely saved me from snapping my ankle.

All PM's responded to, sold items deleted and SPF's updated.

Eliminating the last of my debt and liquidating some of my gear to help achieve that. Not interested in any trades. Will post pics tomorrow. Vortex Viper PST, 4-16x50 EBR-1(MRAD) FFP, slight wear, sun shade, butler creek cap, box w/paperwork. Includes Vortex precision matched 30mm rings. Clears bull barrel w/caps on and mounted on a 20moa rail. $700. Leupold RX-600, with case, $150 Leica 1200 Rangefinder. $250. Remington 660 in 308. $600. Glock 19 Gen 3, used, 3 mags and a paddle holster. $500. Jim White tripod head, w/heavy duty handle built by Jim before his passing. Two plates. $225. SPF Weatherby Vanguard S2, 257 Wby, w/weaver style 2-pc bases. Will throw in a few boxes of Weatherby and Hornady brass/ammo, and a set of RCBS FL dies. $500. Remington 700 ADL varmint, 22-250. Best shooting factory rifle I have ever seen. Has shot a .12" 5 shot group before, and consistently does sub-.2" groups at 100 yards with 52gr Bergers. It will shoot the WW whitebox value pack in .75" groups all day long. Rifle only for $500. Will include a Jewell HVRTSBR-A trigger, ~200 pcs of Lapua brass, RCBS dies, load data and any loaded ammo for $800. Vortex Razor Gen II, 1-6x24 JM-1 BDC, with Bobro Single lever cantilever scope mount, throw lever, front flip cap and neoprene scope cover. $1400. All prices are for FTF here in the valley. Firearms sold with an AZ ID/DL in person, or shipped to FFL. Anything shipped, insured, will be at cost.

List and prices updated. BTT.

If you need some gear for camp this year, let me know.

All PM's replied to. Still would like to know which rangefinder you are interested in.

I can take some next time I'm up at my old place, which will be later this week. Which rangefinder are you interested in?

The Dillon was sold last week, hence why the price is Struck Through and it says sold after it.

Nope. Just cleaning some things out that do not get used (except the swaro's), and paying off the last of my debt before summer is over.

Was out of town for a few days, but all PM's replied to.

I apologize for the slow PM responses this weekend, but all PM's have been replied to now.

BTT, willing to hear reasonable offers.

The 6.5 mag is sold. Here are the pics of the Dillon. Cannot add them to the original post for some reason. Added everything that is included with it and adjusted price accordingly.

I'll take it. PM incoming.

The rifle the PST is on is not for sell at this time. Thank you for asking though.

Pics added of some of the stuff. Will post more later when I make it back home.

BowElk- It was right at 1 moa with both Hornady and Weatherby factory ammo. My load development never made it far enough to say it was a 1/2 moa shooter, but the results were promising. There were several loads I know it did NOT like, so I will have to see if I still have my notes out on it and can tell you tonight.

300 is correct. The issue is not with UPS, it is with the person that doesn't know federal law or her company policy. A call to her supervisor with references in hand for the company policy and applicable USC, along with the person's name who is being ignorant about the fact, should resolve the issue. I am curious if this has any merit for a case of discrimination?

I recognized it years ago, but unfortunately my ex did not share the same vision, and things got away from me for a while. Just getting things back in line with where they need to be.

Lee- Of course you can. They're called American greenbacks, and 600 of them would tell me exactly how much you want it...