roninflag

RED RABBIT - That is an unfortunate. there are a lot of deer in 23 and plenty of wild out of the way places there . hopefully the adults that put the jr. in have an idea. i hope that we can see a bunch of pics of smiling successful young hunters in the next few days

GR8- any estimate on height/weight. tremendous bear. nice color. awesome

i can not say anything about hunting the unit 36a. however hunting coues whitetail - ( usually ) involves hiking up a very rugged mountian in the dark. sitting down glassing with a "good" (1K+) pair of binos and then shooting as soon as you see a buck. often a fairly long shot . this is my experience. sorry if you this is not what you were asking.

the fouth saturday match at rio salado . 500 yards. it has a direct application to coues shooting. i love it. try it. plus you are a lot closer than i am to go to it. roninflag

desertbull- my understanding is they have almost as much aftermarket stuff for savage. go to longrange. com; they can send you to a site i think it is savageshooters.com .

great scope great cartrigdge great ammo. keep shooting futher until your groups reach 6-7inches in diameter( for coues). also there is a match on the 4th saturday at rio salado . 500 yards great practice and has a practical application to coues shots especially

if cost is matters use remington. if accuracy matters use a rem, if weight matters.............

have him wear muffs and puffs . the sound is worse. also use reloads that are a little lighter like 2800 fps instead of 3000 for a 115

there are ways to build on a savage. if you post on longrange they can tell you. i only know about remington

besides " budget " also what is " long range" is not stated. some of my observations are : sporter weight guns may shoot a good group at 100 yards , say less than an inch. but i have not been able to get them to shoot as well as the heavier barrels at distance. even heavy barrel rifles with a krieger barrel may shoot a 1/2 inch group at 100 that does not translate to a 2 inch group at 400 and a 3 inch group at 600. it is not linear. the whole rifle, barrel , tigger , ammo , scope, shooter is a system . getting a 5 inch group at 500 yards or a 6 inch group requires a lot of really good stuff to achieve. a sendero or a savage long range hunter or weatherby accumark is a way to quickly get a rifle that is more accurate; there is no wait for gunsmithing and a barrel to come from krieger. i have a kenton knobb on one of my rifles it is very accurate ; i have fired it out to 759 yards. if you bought a remington 700 CDL ( which i think is an atractive rifle) adjusted the trigger or replaced it with a shilen or a timmney or a jewel ; put a leupold scope (6.5-20) would you be able to shoot a 6 inch group at 600 yards? maybe. the weak points would be the bedding ( wood stock) and the barrel ( factory $31.29) . if you got a sendero, the stock is rigid it has a metal bedding block; added a barrel ( krieger barrel 300 plus 150 to install) i would say probably. the 30-06 is an accurate ( see riflemans journal) and very effective round . if your savage shoots clover leafs try it at distance. i fire mine regularly at 600 yards. roninflag

sounds like there are some big ones there. maybe i will put in there next year

how much did you believe he weighed??

i was drawn for a left over whitetail tag. AND i bought an older model 94 30-30. i so excited i am going to go load my bullet now. ron

if you don't have dogs , a new pair of either leica or swaro 10X42 binos. an accurate rifle. i would skin the bear and then cut the meat off and put in plastic bags in my pack. the backstaps in one bag the rest in another. roninflag

why does he have a collar on?? he is part of a govmt study??

just my preference. i like the sps varmint with a full length barrel better. there is also a review of it on snipershide

HEAT?? I went out this morning . gentle mist, 53 degrees 5:30 AM; by the time i walked a couple miles it was 49 and really raining hard. a little too cold and wet for bear hunting for me. roninflag

IZ- thanks. i am dialing right now

how do find out if you were drawn?

i am going out hunting bear . black bare your avitar has a big sheep. what did it score?? what unit??

any suggestions??

on 24hourcampfire there is a section on lever rifles if you want more responses. neat gun. i would think any of to popular 30/30 powders would work good. 748, 3031, varget, re-15.

i have seen a bear. it really sounds like you need some help. pm me. i will help. i like being helpful. roninflag

i use leupold. the bushnell elite are also good. nikon too. i like a side focus. i like at least a 4-14 or 5-15 for coues. 6-24 is not too much power

call savage it should fire factory ammo just fine.