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In my experience with bees once they move into some sort of cavity they are going to build a hive. This time of year new queens will hatch and either kill the existing queen or more likely fly away to start a new colony with most of the existing hive. When the Queen gets tired she will land to rest for a couple of days while and they clump up around her to protect her while a few of them look for a place t build a hive.

Thanks Guys. This bird had another Tom with him and no Hens. The morning started off with my brother and I at a spot where I knew that birds always roost, year after year. There were two Toms and a few hens. As we got closer into the area where they were we got busted by the Hen's which started to make a nervous chirping sound. They did not see us but it was dry and they obviously could hear us and the closest on was probably 30 yards away. The Toms were gobbling away and were about 200 yards away in the creek bottom. One Hen was near the roosting tree and the other was about 75 yards away on the other side of the creek. This was about 5:30am. I started calling using Hen sounds and the Hens would reply back to each series of my calls. The Toms would gobble back and after about 5 minutes they started to get closer. After another 10 minutes or they had gotten to within about 40 yards but something I did with the call shut them down and they left. They were below me and there was a lot of brush between us and I did not see them. They moved off about 100 yards still gobbling so I followed them at distance but I knew they were pretty close to the edge of the ranch that was there so I backed off. I got back to my brother, who was visiting from NY and did not have a tag and we went back to the truck. We drove about a 3/4" of a mile back toward camp to hunt an area I roosted birds last week which was also in the same direction as where the birds were headed. We parked the truck and headed down the mountain to the creek bottom and had gone about 100 yards when my brother said he heard a gobble. He does not hunt so I asked him in which direction and he pointed to the southeast. I took out the box call and did a couple of Hen called and two birds gobbled back from what sounded like 35 yards. Out eyes went wide open and I wondered how we had walked past them without spooking them! We immediately started to setup and I took off my frame pack and put on my face net and gloves as my brother got into position behind me. I started to call and they gobbled right back. I answered right back getting a bit more aggressive and louder with the call to try to sound like an excited Hen. I will say at this point that I have never called in a Turkey before and I was making it up as I went along. They gobbled back so I put the call down and shouldered the shotgun. I looked out through the brush and told my brother "here they come". I could see them walking to us in single file and they then went into some brush for a few seconds. The first one came out and he was walking to the right and not straight to us. I had a feeling it was going to try and go around us so as soon as it stopped for a split second I shot and he went down. I jumped up and ran to it stopping to go under a barbed wire fence. It was about 7:15. My brother came over and we took some pictures. He then went back and retrieved my pack and I met him at the fence. I took my range finder out of the pack and ranged the spot from where I shot, 28 yards. I then ranged the bird which was 12 yards. I used an old Remington Duplex 2x4 load I had a few left which I have had for ages. We went back to camp and cleaned the bird before packing up to leave. All in all a great time with my brother.

AZ G&F Posted this on FB. The 28 cooperating agency and stakeholder groups that developed and support this alternative are: Cooperating Agencies Arizona Game and Fish Department Eastern Arizona Counties Organization Gila County (AZ) Graham County (AZ) Greenlee County (AZ) Navajo County (AZ) Stakeholders Supporting this Alternative as a Starting Point for Further Discussion Anglers United Arizona Antelope Foundation Arizona BASS Arizona Big Game Super Raffle Arizona Cattle Growers’ Association Arizona Chapter of the National Wild Turkey Federation Arizona Deer Association Arizona Desert Bighorn Sheep Society Arizona Elk Society Arizona Houndsmen Arizona Sportsmen for Wildlife Conservation Arizona Trappers Association Arizona Wildlife Federation Big Game Forever ES Advisement, LLC (AZ) Coconino Sportsmen Outdoor Experience 4 All Phoenix Varmint Callers, Inc. Sportsmen’s Constituent Group The BASS Federation The Mule Deer Foundation 1-2-3-Go In addition, the Yuma Valley Rod and Gun Club also supports the alternative, making it 29 groups.

The only wolf I ever say was in the early 90's in Unit 29, and I'd like to keep it that way.

Yeah but how many boxes does it take you to get a limit of Doves? LOL. Seriously though, that is some very good shooting.

Maybe this? http://www.snakesofarizona.com/soa-bh-nc.jpg

So, glad I was in my truck. LOL I was coming off the San Carlos Reservation on the 1800 Rd and as I came around a turn in the river bottom there was a portly brown phase bear working a pile of wood about 30 yards away. It took one look at me and charged the truck covering about 20 feet then abruptly turned around and bounded away looking back about every 10 yards. I did not see any cubs and my diesel isn't exactly quite. Beautiful bear though. Did not look like it had missed any meals in a long time. My estimate is it was about 300+ pounds and 5 years old. I felt under gunned toting a G22 with a 9mm barrel in it while I scouted for Turkeys this weekend. Probably going to put the 40 S&W barrel back in or just carry the PD329 when I go back up this week to hunt. Sure was glad I was in the truck.

WHat did you use? 1" EMT?

Good luck. I'll be way south of you in 27 doing some scouting.

OK, so I am a bit past 1500 posts. But, I really appreciate this site and everything that Amanda has put into it and kinda feel like that guy who listens to NPR or PBS and never sends them a donation. I have a Savage Model 67 shotgun in 20 gauge with a Modified Choke and about a 28" barrel that would make a great starter gun for someone. I bought it new 20+ years ago so it has been shot a bit. It has a couple of dings in the stock but overall I'd give it 85%. I had a new firing pin put in it two years ago because it broke and last year I started getting a couple of misfires again. Maybe 1 out of every 20 shots or so. I'm not sure what going on but this is a shotgun that is from what I have read is not for the novice to take apart. So, here it is up for grabs, free of charge. I will be headed through Globe from the east valley on Friday to see if I can find my way across the Rez to Eagle Creek if someone along the way would put it to good use or I can work something else out for someone who is in need. I would really like to see this go to someone who will enjoy it and sell it for personal gain. This a "Plain Jane" model. IIRC, I paid $99 for it at Yellow Front.

I'm an old softie so I definitely won't be watching that before turkey season. LOL

A member has come forward and asked for it so it looks like it has found a new home.

Will do.

I got a scopecoat when I bought a Trijicon. Fits too tight for my likeing.

Looking for appliances? Have they pulled a permit for construction yet?

I have not fished desert lakes in decades. But if you're after cats try and catch some palm sized bluegills and hook them between the dorsal fin and tail then freeline them in coves in 5-15 feet of water after the sun goes down and fish between 9 and 4.

How do you know if they come with frame poles?

How about this for a Federal Tax Rate; Under $250K = $0 tax Working and over 65 = $0 tax $250K - $ 500K = 5% flat tax $500K + = 7.5 % flat tax Capitol Gains, flat 2.5% tax 0 Federal Sales Tax Combined City and State Sales Tax Maximum of 5% We as a people need to stop handing State, Federal and Local governments a free meal ticket. Oh? And you have no kids living at home below the age of 4 or over 19 not in school! You don't pay School Property Tax. When we as a people are no longer corralled as a renewable infinite taxable resource and that fiscal river dries up then maybe, just maybe our dollars will no longer be squandered overseas and we just might begin to rebuild our nation, create jobs and cut the pork in DC. I know, pipe dream.

They look like they are new.

I know right? But it can't be that expensive to make it 4WD. I say $3-5K depending on how much you want to do yourself.

Beautiful.

You can check over here and see if any of the Tucson guys can help you out. http://www.azpsg.com/forum.php

This should give you some info on the schools. http://www.ade.az.gov/edd/eddList.asp

I've been trying to get up to 27 to scout but it has been one thing after another the last few weekends but I'm definitely going up this coming weekend.

Check with some of the folks over here. I remember recently reading about some changes to the Halibut Regs. http://forums.outdoorsdirectory.com/forumdisplay.php/23-Alaska-Fishing-Forums