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There are probably 40 plus subspecies of Whitetails, Coues are only found in AZ, NM and Mexico but there are Whitetails of similar size in South America. Fun to hunt because they adapt so well to different terrain from desert to alpine, not very big and most bucks are 90-110 pounds and stand about 36" at the shoulder and about the same from chest to butt.

I have never seen deer eat those and javelina will leave them long and stringy.

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Nice wood.

Look like sled dogs. Not sure there is anything worthwhile for them to to hunt in Arizona. Might make good pets if you live in Heber, Flag or Alpine. Good luck finding them homes, they are cute.

For the sake of argument, elk and red deer/stag are genetically identical, which is why they can produce viable, fertile offspring. If you took the DNA from a North American elk and a European red deer/stag, you couldn't tell the two apart by species. I sat in on a conservation genetics class almost 10 years ago and we discussed the paper and the species' genetics. I wish I still had that paper. Technically, they should have the exact same scientific name. Taxonomically, they should probably be subspecies, but it will likely never get published or recognized as such because of the record books. Evolving on separate continents for 10,000 years is what has lead to differences in antler growth and vocalizations, but they are still genetically identical. We don't call bull elk stag and cow elk hinds because we do our own thing compared to Europe/Asia. Its like "orthopedic" in NA and "orthopaedic" in Europe. Bill is correct in that Audad are more genetically akin to goats than sheep and I doubt any interbreeding would result in viable offspring, thus making them true hybrids, but arguing over common vernacular is kind of mute. Its kind of like when people tell me they've seen chicken hawks or timber rattlesnakes here in Arizona. Rather than trying to correct everyone and sound righteous (like I used to 20 years ago), I just start talking about it with them. heck, the biologist/taxonomist in me has even learned to start saying "Coos" when referring to those little whitetails! Having said all of that, I'm with Hoghutr and DesertBull in that hunting and harvesting a nice rambilly is one of my bucket list items! But for those of us that don't have any idea it is interesting conversation and enlightening knowledge wise!!! Like others have said, looks incredibly interesting and fun to hunt and would love for my wife to stick a tag in my Christmas/Birthday stocking!!! It must be late and two long days of being the single dad with my wife out of town must have caught up to me. I'm not sure if I'm supposed to take that as a compliment for contributing, or a "shut the #$@! up!" My intention was to contribute to the very interesting conversation and enlightenment. As you can probably tell, I love genetics, especially when it comes to conservation and what we do. Like Phil Cramer said earlier, I still call them rams and ewes and always have. Like you and others, I just want to hunt one! At one time, I almost had my wife talked into letting me put in for an Ibex tag in NM. Those are definitely goats! Absolutely not the shut up version, some of you guys truly know your stuff and some of us truly are clueless, I mean, a Javelina is for sure a pig right .For example, one of the best three way cross breed of pigs is Hampshire boar to a York sow then come back and breed that offspring with a Duroc and you have one of the best meat pigs on the market!!! But hey they are all pigs right??? Honestly was meaning that some of these topics like when you were helping us dissect the different snakes......I was very interested in the information you provided. I don't read much but I do read CWT every day I am in internet range and I have learned tons from the different sides that people present so don't "shut the #$@! up!" Now to show my ignorance on the subject I am assuming the AOUDAD is an imported critter right? Thanks! That's what happens when you're trying to get two kids to two different places at the same time while the next day's carefully laid out schedule changes. I also call javelina pigs even though I know better! Pretty sure they're rodents (my personal favorite to correct)! And, yes, they are nonnative and were imported. I believe the New Mexico population was the result of audad (also Barbary Sheep) escaping from a private ranch somewhere north of Carlsbad. Texas...oh, Texas. I think Texas has more nonnative, introduced game animals than native ones! My brother-in-law in Laredo actually turned me on to Audad hunting, but he wants to get his the old-fashioned Texas way. He wants to pay good money to sit over a feeder and wait for a good one to come in, same as how he wants to get a 7x7 elk someday. SMH... I know your the scientist but since you also think the world is like a billion years old.. I think they declassified javelina and know longer think they are a rat. The javelina is native to the Western Hemisphere while true pigs are native to Eastern.. So my question is why is it not just called a western hemisphered wild pig? Oh and i still wanna kill one of those sheep goat things! Especially now that I know they don't taste like a sheepgoat Earth is actually more than a billion years old, my friend! I was joking about the javelina/rodent thing. People try to tell me all the time that they are rodents and it makes me laugh. Javelina are not even in the pig family, which is why they aren't called a western hemisphered wild pig. Taxonomically, they are in the same order as pigs (Artiodactyla), but a different family. Their closest relatives are, in fact, pigs and hippos. Yes, you read that right: hippopotamuses (hippopatami?). No North American relative, but the Tayassuid family is known from the fossil record from all continents except Australia and Antarctica, so they were native almost all over at one point. And I still want to hunt an Audad/Barbary Sheep and shoot a nice Ram/billy, too! Which possibly explains some of my relatives!!! I have met a fair number of people who have javelina confused with the capybara, a pig-sized rodent from South America. Curiously, I never heard them called rodents until I moved to the Arizona-New Mexico border region. For some reason, it seems to be a fairly common misconception around here. Pretty sure Jerry Day said their closely related to rodents.

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Cameraland is always running sales on optics. I would call Doug and talk to him about what you are looking for. http://www.coueswhitetail.com/forums/topic/72204-riflescope-super-sale/

Same here.Same hereSame here. Same here. Because we got drawn. Just a jr tag?

I don't have much space so I use large plastic pots I got from Walmart. I use premixed potting soil that has crystals in it that help to retain moisture. In the cold weather I move them under my patio so they done get frost damage. My patio faces east so the plants get morning sun and by 12:30 when the suns rays get really intense and the day is getting hot like in the summer, they get shade for the rest of the day. I have a battery operated time that attaches to the hose bib and a short piece of garden hose attached to it which runs to a piece of 1/2" PVC which is attached to the supports of the patio. I drilled a few holes in it by each pot for water. Times vary to every other day in cooler weather to twice a day in the heat of the summer. Many of my plants came from kitchen scraps like pepper and tomato plants. Peppers do like hot weather and a rule of thumb is if plants are being sold in the nursery like Home Depot or Walmart you should be good to plant. Right now I am growing herbs like basil, oregano and tyme. I also have some beans coming up and some garlic. The garlic can take 4-6 months to mature and these were started from some cloves I had in the refrigerator that began to sprout. If you like artichokes they grow well here but you won't get any chokes the first year and they take up some space. You can use miracle grow plant food and they make one just for veggies with the right amount of nitrogen, too much will kill them. I have a pineapple plant I started by cutting the top off and putting it in dirt that is two years old and don't know if it will ever get fruit but it looks cool. Yesterday I used some green onions in some scampi and planted the bottom three inches which should continue to grow. Lettuce grows well but keep it covered or the sparrows will eat it up. Onions and potatoes do well in our climate and soil. Phoenix is Zone 9A and areas like Queen Creek are 9B. Opps, just saw you are in SV which is 8A a bit cooler. Plants that should do well for you are tomatoes, kale strawberries and possibly blueberries. Also carrots, radishes, brusselsprouts.

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Are there any guides who fish San Carlos? I've never caught Crappie before and would like to get my son out there.

Checked at 6AM but NADA.

I loved my autoprime. Used it so much I wore a flat spot on it.

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Great story, they are next on my list. Did you kill any hogs? How snakey was it?

I'd be game for going in. Adam how big is your yard?

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I'm going to take my sister out to dinner tomorrow night as she will be in town. Looking for a something different and not really wanting to drive to Carefree. Like to keep it within 10 miles. Like to keep it under $250 for 2-4 people.

Carvalho's for the win. Had a long talk with the owner about collecting fish (Discus) and in general fishing the Amazon and Rio Negro for Peacock Bass. Food was good, we sat outside and I had a couple of Brazilian beers and will be going back again.

Too commercial. I would never go there, in any state. AZ has tooo much to offer.

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